Some opinions, please, on the answers some of these 'Christians' gave to a woman who had been raped???

Question

I have seen some very un-Christian things put forth by so-called Christians on this forum, but some of the answers to this question make everything else I've seen pale by comparison.
Some of these people believe it's the raped woman's fault, because of her choice of clothes.
Myself, I believe that people who think that should not be allowed to walk our streets unmonitored. But, you tell me what you think.

Also, before you answer with, "Well, if she was dressed provocatively..." think about this: Do you steal your neighbor's new luxury car, simply because you've seen him drive it?

Oops! The link would help, lol:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AsxVT8saAlAV43BYVdT8AO_sy6IX?qid=20061015223720AAYfaXK

Edit: Some of you people just astound me with the unfathomable powers of your minds. We regulars know who the 'Christians' are here, and some of them did, indeed, suggest the rape was at least partially the victim's fault.

I don't remember the nickname of the screwball who said something about their neighbor leaving his new luxury car in a dark alley, but I take it you think that, in a situation like that, blatant theft is O.K.??? Thanks for showing us all where your mind is, thief.

Also, (and I could kick myself for forgetting this) what about old, invalid ladies who are raped in nursing homes? Did they deserve it? It happens quite frequently.

Guess they're just old 'hos'?

Answer 1

there is NO EXCUSE whatsoever for rape.

Answer 2

Using your example: The Luxury Car

Sure, just because someone is coveting their neighbors new luxury car doesn't make it right for that person to go steal the thing, BUT IF THE OWNER OF THE CAR PARKS THE CAR DOWN A DARK STREET AND LEAVES THE KEYS IN THE IGNITION... That isn't asking for trouble now is it?

Here's the deal, it is never the victim's fault, but there are in some cases (looking in hindsight) where we realize that there are things we could have done (can do) to make the likelyhood of these sorts of attacks less likely.

God gave us a head with which to reason things through. So many athiests scream that Christ-ians don't have critical thinking skills, yet when a Christian tells a woman she should THINK THROUGH the clothes she is wearing and the effect those clothes may have on certain people (would be attackers)... Suddenly the Christian is not suppose to think any longer. Interesting! To say the least.
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Wow! I can see by your response to my post here, that you have very selective "reading".

I qualified my example by saying that it is "Never the victim's fault" [that they are attacked, robbed, what ever].

It matters not, you are clearly on some sort of rampage here and unless someone slobbers all over your nonsense, and gives you all the "love" you want... you aren't going to hear a thing anyone else has to say.

Answer 3

People who give inane replies of that nature first off are not educated at all. I'm not talking about graduating from high school. I'm talking about learning about the world around you and basic life lessons. Those sickening idiots who mention that she brought this on herself live in their own little bubble where they in their minds have never done anything wrong in their lives, life is all rainbows and lollipops, and their way is the only one that is correct and screw anyone else who thinks differently.

What you wear has nothing to do with being fodder for rape. You don't even have to look like a supermodel to be raped. It is about control, nothing more. The rapists are not looking for the sexually attractive ones. They are looking for the women and girls who are visibly vulnerable and naive.

It makes my blood boil that people out there think that they are so much better and holier than the victims who had no control over the situation.

The woman needs to find a different church asap. I know there are many that would not treat her as such. The minister needs to be reported and his job taken away, but unfortunately that doesn't always happen.

Answer 4

i spose that had i not seen the car i would be less likelyto sreal it but that does not make my doing the deed that persons fault. Other than that seems to me not to be her fault. I always advised my daughter not to wear certain clothes where those type of things could be likely and if that was the case whoever was in charge of her should have educated her. This whole society contributes to these deeds because we are not protective enough. In counseling we were taught about a game some women play called rapo. I have had this run on me one time and had I been terribly horney I might have made a big mistake. This whole do what you want when you want mentality causes many to get hurt, Culturally we set ourselves up to be hurt. This whole idea that it is a good idea to rub up against those you want and yet keep it in your pants is just aggravating ones sex drive


It used to be very clear. If you went to his place and had sex it was foujnnd to be consentual, if the guy went to her home it was rape too tired to go on ttfn

Answer 5

A priest is suppose to be authorized to act as a medium between God and Man to perform sacred spirituality; a bond and trust- apparently he didn't follow that rule. Unfortunately we live in a society where the sanctity of the true church demolished; you see it every day- you hear it on the news- abusing children, etc. He ranks above a Deacon and below a bishop- the female victim should appeal to his superior. To be held against yourself, like this poor woman- No one and I don't care if he wears a black cloth, has that right to defile. She was already- he should be put in his place. Same concept goes when an abused mother goes to help to a priest and begs him not to tell the husband, and what does the priest do? He does and she comes home to get beaten again. I have no respect, in my opinion, for a man who swears on a bible to protect and guide his children and fails to do it!!! I hope she can find some closure and assistance in that matter.

Answer 6

Which is more LIKELY to be stolen, my old clunker of a car on it's last leg or my neighbor's new luxury car?

No one DESERVES to be raped. Men are visually stimulated. Women know that. Women dress to attract men. If a woman dresses herself in a way that implies "I'm easy" some men act upon their animal instinct based upon the signal she is sending."

If I am walking the streets in a scrubs, a white lab coat and a stethoscope around my neck is it wrong for you to assume I am a doctor?

If you see someone dressed in a blue uniform with a badge and a gun holster and a radio attached to his shoulder is it wrong for you to assume he is a police officer?

By the same token, if a woman is dressed like a prostitute human nature tells us the woman, if not a prostitute is easy.

Another question, do you know any women who dress provocatively and go out and act SHY and hang their head and try to keep from being seen? They want to be seen, they want to be desired and when a man's reaction goes too far then they want to cry "FOUL?!"

Rape is wrong in any case but that doesn't give a woman the right to dress in a way she knows is provocative and lead men into temptation. Some are not strong enough to handle it, some are pure evil and that's when the rapes occur.

btw, I'm a Christian.

Answer 7

1) No one has the right to violate another person, whether it's physically, mentally, sexually, whatever.

2) Prior to Christ, the bible advocated treating women like property, so it's conceivable that some sicko fundamentalist Christians could think that the woman could be at fault.

3) After Christ, Christianity still did not treat women entirely as equals (still doesn't) but the bible certainly does not advocate rape. Only an insane minister would think this.

4) In fantasyland women are able to walk anywhere, dressed as provocatively as they like, and do not have to fear being raped. In the real world, smart women understand that men can behave like animals, they are generally stronger and more aggressive, and thus women need to be on guard at all times. This is the sad but true world we live in.

Answer 8

By "Un-Christian" I assume you mean reasonable and objective? The fact is that it is up to the individual to protect themselves to some degree. The police can't be everywhere and in this country, where criminals are allowed to roam free, it is only common sense to take some precautions: Don't go out alone, don't get drunk, don't drink anything you didn't buy or open yourself, don't leave alone, don't go off with strangers, don't walk the streets at night alone, carry a cell phone, pepper spray and cab fare, and always let someone know where you're going and when you'll be back.

If that's too much to ask I would suggest that the person in question is looking for trouble, wants to blot out her brain, wants to wake up in some stranger's bed, wants to die.

I'm not a criminal so I would never help her with that, nor do I find any justice in some criminal accommodating her. I'd just like her to face herself and wake up before she wastes her life, or some bozo takes advantage of her weakness.

Answer 9

I don't think any law abiding citizen would dispute that rape is rape and wrong. However some Christians get so wrapped up in self righteous texts that they hide behind these texts and think it is alright to sit in judgment of others. My best answer for you, is that when you put a question up in this forum it will attract all sorts. More often than not because that person isn't answering your question face-to-face they are 'braver' with their opinions and quite often go well over the top in the offence factor. The point is these are just opinions, if the person has the rationality to see and hear other opinions and realise that maybe they are to judgmental and need to fix their opinions then well and good. As for their others what goes around comes around.

Answer 10

If anything the attacker will be held accountable to God for a lack of self control.If he had any he would have asked if you were interested and accept your answer in a mature manner.
but because of the fashion industry females are portrayed as being more attractive in skimpy tight clothing. while female designers are becoming more prevalent they still follow the same train of thought. clothes are to be use to attract a possible mate.along with makeup and such.
As to your last question no . But I might try to buy a car as good or better than his.

Answer 11

All people are put into different situations,it is how we deal with them that makes us an overcomer..If you have seen what I have went through, you would have pitied me but because you don't know me you think I am different because you don't know my past..People judge each person and they are not suppose to..we can make excuses for everyone but the thing is can you change your way of thinking if you see something you are doing is bad..I try not to look at peoples mistakes,when I do I get reminded of my own..We were not born perfect,we were all born human..People have put Christains on this big platform to be looked at,well you see we are human now don't you..but we still ask for forgivness and try to go on,,if we don't change it is our own fault and we have not hurt you,because you will still go on living right..People need to start looking at thier own faults instead of worring about what others are doing,this world would probably be a better place to live..