Cat nutritionist question: analyze which is better to give an 8-yr old neutered male cat please?

Question

Purina FRISKIES, Senoir formula: "Pacfic Salmon Dinner in Sauce" (can):
Crude protein: 9.0%
Crude fat: 2.5%
Crude Fiber: 1.5%
Moisture: 82%
Ash: 3.0%
Taurine: 0.05%

Ingredients: Meat By-products, Salmon, Water, Fish, Brewers Rice, Turkey, Natural and Artifical flavors, (usual vitamins and minerals...)

SCIENCE DIET, Senior +7 formula, "Gourmet Beef Entree" (can:

Crude Protein: 8.0%
Crude fat: 4.0%
Crude Fiber: 2.0%
Moisture: 78%
Ash: 2.2%
Taurine: 0.08%

Ingredients:
Water, Beef, Beef-by-products, Pork-by-product, Pork liver, Wheat flour, Corn starch, Powdered Cellulose, Soybean oil, Corn gluten meal, , Rice flour, chicken liver flavor, Fish meal (vitamins and minerals)

On which brand will my cat loose a bit of weight and maintain it there after?

wow... thanks everyone! I looked up and read the website about cat nutrition that you gave Mick - really really interesting!

And oh, SEATTLE!!! I was hoping that I would get an answer from you as I noticed that you give pretty thorough information to "serious cat questions." I truly appreciate you being in this site and helping us cat-lovers take care of our kitties...

and thakn you too msdollit... I was kinda thinking that the Friskies was the better choice too despite the fact that its cheaper than Science Diet - but Seattle and Mick think that both brands are actually not good enough :(

Answer 1

Hi there...in all honesty neither brand will help acheive sufficient weight loss as they contain corn products, preservatives and byproducts are not ideal as well. Cats always will still feel hungry as the fillers break down into the system quickly converted into simple sugars spiking the blood sugar up quickly later turning into body fat stored in the cat's body. Essentially these are "simple" carbohydrates. Complex carbohydrates is reverse of this found in premium brands of cat foods.

Most commercially found brands in the pet stores and grocery stores don't meet the best nutritional needs of cats who are obligate carnivores.

Ideally it's best to look to cat foods that are devoid of these ingredients and look for a crude protein of 28% or greater and use whole meat products. The higher the protein the more weight loss and management can be attained.

Cats who eat the premium brands will more feel satiated eating these brands and can eat less than the pet store equivelents as well.

Nature's Variety Prairie, Innova Senior and others like them found at specialty pet stores use quality ingredients that can help with weight loss, weight management, lower urine acidity to minimize infection common to male cats and the other benefits, softer coat of hair, less shedding and overall improved health.

Here's the websites for both products I've mentioned:
Nature's Variety Chicken & Brown Rice: http://www.naturesvariety.com/content.lasso?page=1363&-session=naturesvariety:43B7DCEA18ce600648sWTP754291

Ingredients:
Chicken Meal, Brown Rice, Oatmeal, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Menhaden Fish Meal, Flaxseed Meal, Montmorillonite Clay, Natural Chicken Flavor, Alfalfa Meal, Chicken Liver, Potassium Chloride, Sea Salt, DL-Methionine, Vitamins (Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Niacin Supplement, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Biotin, Riboflavin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Beta Carotene, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Folic Acid), Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite), Taurine, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Inulin, Flaxseed Oil, Apples, Cottage Cheese, Chicken Eggs, Cranberries, Freeze Dried Chicken, Freeze Dried Turkey, Freeze Dried Turkey Liver, Freeze Dried Turkey Hearts, Pumpkinseeds, Ground Chicken Bone, Carrots, Butternut Squash, Broccoli, Lettuce, Spinach, Kelp, Salmon Oil, Apple Cider Vinegar, Parsley, Honey, Blueberries, Alfalfa Sprouts, Grapefruit Seed Extract, Persimmons, Olive Oil, Duck Eggs, Pheasant Eggs, Quail Eggs, Rosemary Extract, Sage, Clove

Guaranteed Analysis
Crude Protein (min) 34.0%
Crude Fat (min) 20.0%
Crude Fiber (max) 2.5%
Moisture (max) 10.0%

Calories
450 per cup

Other Nutritional Data
Calcium (min): 1.72%
Phosphorus (min): 1.27%
Vitamin E (min): 97.51 IU/kg
Vitamin C* (min): 50 mg/kg
Omega 6 Fatty Acids* (min): 2.96%
Omega 3 Fatty Acids* (min): 0.77%
*Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Cat Food Nutrient Profiles.

Vitamins
Carotene: 5.43 mg/kg
Vitamin A: 25372 IU/kg
Vitamin D: 1591 IU/kg
Vitamin E: 97.51 IU/kg
Vitamin K: 1.096 mg/kg
Ascorbic Acid: 50 mg/kg
Thiamine: 29.39 mg/kg
Riboflavin: 12.42 mg/kg
Pantothenic Acid: 25.53 mg/kg
Biotin: 0.27 mg/kg
Folic Acid: 1.76 mg/kg
Choline: 3673 mg/kg
Vitamin B12 0.14 mg/kg
Vitamin B6 4.4 mg/kg
Niacin: 97.21 mg/kg
Iodine: 1.49 mg/kg

Minerals
Sodium: 0.43%
Potassium: 0.66%
Chloride: 0.51%
Magnesium: 0.12%
Sulfur: 0.47%
Manganese: 18.24 mg/kg
Iron: 268.90 mg/kg
Copper: 35.06 mg/kg
Zinc: 309.7 mg/kg
Selenium: 0.56 mg/kg

Amino Acids
Methionine-Cystine: 1.17%
Methionine: 0.81%
Cystine: 0.36%
Lysine: 1.98%
Tryptophan: 0.35%
Threonine: 1.66%
Isoleucine: 1.48%
Histidine: 0.82%
Valine: 1.65%
Leucine: 3.00%
Arginine: 1.99%
Phenylalanine-Tyrosine: 1.54%
Taurine: 0.16%


Innova Senior: http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=product-detail&pxsl=%2F%2Fproduct%5B%40id%3D%271416%27%5D

Turkey
Chicken
Chicken Meal
Barley
Brown Rice
Chicken Fat
Rice
Herring
Pea Fiber
Natural Flavors
Potatoes
Flaxseed Meal
Apples
Carrots
Cottage Cheese
Herring Oil
Sunflower Oil
Alfalfa Sprouts
Egg
Cranberries
Sea Salt
Dried Chicory Root Extract
Chondroitin Sulfate
Glucosamine Hydrochloride
DL-Methionine
Taurine
Lecithin
Rosemary Extract
Vitamins/Minerals

Moisture10.0 %
Protein38.0 %
Fat12.0 %
Fiber8.0 %
Calories1616 Kcal/lb
Calories3555 Kcal/Kg
Calories396 KCals/Cup

Other premium brands:
California Natural
Wellness
Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover's Soul
Life Abundance
and so many more...

Answer 2

From the look of this the Friskies has less fat in it and more protein than the science diet. Also it has meat even though it is by-products as the first ingredient which means it is mostly meat. The SD has Water as the main ingredient and while cats need water this should not be the first ingredient. I would go with the Friskies even though it is not a "good" brand

Answer 3

Here. take a few minutes to read this and you'll know more about feline nutrition than most vets. And you'll know how to read those labels for the most important information they convey - sometimes more than the pet food manufacturers would really like you to know! Weight management is covered here, as are the nutritional needs of older kitties.

And you probably won't feed your kitty either of those brands once you know how to analyze those contents.

http://www.catinfo.org

I think you'll really enjoy this site. Since you're interested in improving kitty's diet, I know you'll find it helpful.

Answer 4

that's not uncommon for a castrated cat to mount inanimate gadgets or different cats, regardless of their intercourse. Neutering reduces male behaviors yet would not consistently get rid of them. that's genuine by way of fact the pathways in the concepts related to gender-based habit are shaped before the animal is even born. The presence of testosterone activates sexual habit in men. yet by way of this "confusing wiring" of the concepts, the removing of the hormone--after neutering, working example--would not assure that those behaviors would be eradicated