I was arguing with a man about some abstract crap that no one really cared about and he was getting furious. Now I'm standing there in blue jeans and a tshirt, tattoos and piercings, scars from years of hard labor and looking at him like a bug when he talks. I was listening but his anger was too amusing.
He was 5 years older than me, and wearing slacks and a polo shirt. Then he says the thing that set me off. He said, "I was the pastor of a small baptist church for 7 years. I left the ministry but I am still a follower. Everytime you use foul language with me I just want to smack you." So I camly replied, "Sir. Even if you were currently a minister that title is about as important as "janitor" in the way I would treat you. Because you taught people about god doesn't make you him. You can try to smack me, but you had better pray the lord shows up."
Was I wrong to feel that way? Does being a minister hold weight as to how you should treat a person?
2006-10-15 17:11:58 · 10 answers · asked by Barcode 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I'm getting answers about how he should treat me. What I was asking was, does he deserve to be treated diffently because he is ordained?
2006-10-15 17:27:48 · update #1
I don't advocate violence, but he brought it up first. Good for you for dealing with him in terms that you BOTH understood.
I am curious about how he responded.
2006-10-15 17:15:25 · answer #1 · answered by NHBaritone 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It's alot easier to hear both people's sides of the story in figuring out an argument. Now the pastor guy is probebly asking for your respect, because face it, people do get offended when others swear. Why else would it be a common norm?
I think the Pastor had a decent request until "I just want to smack you" was spoken. It it was more of a kidding around-type speaking, that seems ok. If he was seriously mad at you, then yeah, that's not your as much as his actually threatening someone to not offend.
My advice, respect that guy and he will respect you. Personally, I'm not offended by swearing as much as just so sick of hearing everyone using the same set of words, for their only adjectives. Life would be more exciting if people came up with their own things to say instead of useing the standard vocab of cussing.
2006-10-16 00:24:56 · answer #2 · answered by Lord_French_Fry 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
actually yes it does. i am an ordained minister.
and the actions of the minister that threatened you were wrong.
i would respond the same way. in fact i have.
you see i am a pagan priest. my brother actually threatened to "I will beat the light of god into you if it was the last thing that I do"
well he is 10 yers older than me and we are the same hight, but o have about 200 pounds on him. he grabbed me. and i priceeded to bounce him off of every wall in the house.
when youare threatened by someone agressive behavior in return is the first natural reaction.
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then you will always be on even ground.
however no title religious or otherwise grants a person any special privilages over any other man.
2006-10-16 00:39:59 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
of course it does if one is a pastor they ought not to act as you say he did. Using crude language as you say you did only points out your lack of ability to express acurately what you want to say. I was a sailor and the word f'n did not narrow down the communication so the one listening understood any better. Being craas and rude is just not a good idea. Sounds like he was getting frutrated just forgive him and forget it. What's the differance now who did what. Perhaps next time you can have a discussion instead of an argument. When trying to show a person they are in error the best way is if in the end they say they were wrong and the best way to do that is to ask questions and they answer and you keep making them think. Hone your skills in asking questions, what you may find out b4 you waste youe time is that the person is not worth your time.
2006-10-16 00:24:49 · answer #4 · answered by icheeknows 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Thats why in the movie :"Devil's Advocate", The Devil said that his favorite sin was Vanity coz from Vanity comes Pride with these two... all virtues of Love, Humility, Compassion go down the drain :)
from Vanity comes Pride come "Holier than Thou-ness", and from that come Vengence, Violence and Vendettas if their WILL is not fulfilled under the Label of god. What a farce!
P/s 1 ( follow up ): True Hearted Respect can never be enforced, if he demands respect that way he doesnt deserve it. A school teacher whom we really love and respect, will not say "respect me" or even insinuate it. We will naturally be humble and passive in their presence out of deep respect for what they have taught us and how they have affected our lives.
Being ordained, bestowed with titles or self proclaimed doesn't justify enforcing respect from other.
2006-10-16 00:29:42 · answer #5 · answered by Tiara 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No he doesn't deserve to be treated differently just because he is "ordained". You were not wrong, he was judging you and being an a.s.s. that is not the way Jesus would have reacted to you, he would have asked you not to use that language maybe but never threaten violence! You handled it better than some of us would. Good for you!!
2006-10-16 04:52:04 · answer #6 · answered by tamara.knsley@sbcglobal.net 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
1) No man (or woman for that matter) is better or above another.
2)We are all children of God and should love each other no matter what.
3)Pastors and ministers have absolutely no right to place themselves above anyone for their calling is one of service to God they should therefore treat his children with the up most love and respect as would Jesus have done. It seems this is where modern religion is headed (the holier than thous and the unworthy) I'm just glad to know Jesus and it shows my whole family loves freely all God has given breath. Please don't assume we are all like this jerk you had the bad luck to have to meet.God loves you as does all his people
2006-10-16 02:29:18 · answer #7 · answered by john316tdh 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think you responded excellently!! And what kind of 'minister' (current or not) wants to smack someone??
2006-10-16 00:16:39 · answer #8 · answered by just me 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes, because you have to be a role model for everyone else.
2006-10-16 00:15:50 · answer #9 · answered by ambey 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No. It doesn't. I also think that him bringing it up was a low point.
2006-10-16 00:18:12 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋