If God is taken out of all aspects of government life and not allowed...?

Question

then doesn't the ideology of the govenment become atheist?

Basically, a government that is intolerant of religion is an atheist government. Is that the goal of people like Michael Newdow and the ACLU to make America "officially atheist" like China is?

For those who don't know, Micheal Newdow, with the help of the ACLU, has sued to take the "under God" out of the pledge of allegiance. And more recently, he has been trying to get the "in God We Trust" motto of America off of our money.

An atheist government will make atheist laws to support and atheist ideology.

Answer 1

The United States of American was founded as a Christian nation. But Secular. Which means that all are welcome and none are second class citizens. NO WHERE in the documents that were written in the founding of this country does it say , "freedom from religion",
freedom of religion is what is said. They are not interchangeable and have totally different meanings. These are BS lawsuits that are totally self-serving and nothing else. The United States of America has never tried to impose Christianity onto anyone. The mention of the name "God" proves that our nation was founded by believers. And George Washington said words to this effect," We must be careful in the wording of these documents or a minority may impose their will onto the majority." He was a very smart man and that is exactly what is being attempted today. Everywhere in our country today a minority of people are trying to impose their views onto the majority, homosexuals, pro-choice people, anti-God people, atheists, and numerous others. When they can not get laws passed by our government, then they try to do a quarterback sneak though our court system and get Judges to basically make changes in our laws. THAT IS NOT AND NEVER WAS THE JOB OF JUDGES. The so-called "right to chose" was not and never has been voted into law, either by the people or by legislators. Because the pro-choice people know that they would lose if that issue were on the ballet.

When Roe v Wade was settled, many of the Supreme Court Justices said that the ruling did not and should not mean abortion on demand be legal, but such is life, or the taking thereof.

The words, "under God" and "in God we trust" are a simple idea that a supreme being exists, not a Christian supreme being, just a supreme being, period. No where in our country is any citizen forced to join or follow any religion. The people already have "freedom from religion" even though that is not stated in our founding documents.

Answer 2

Well, i think that creating an atheist government isn't exactly the intention of 'people like Michael Newdow and the ACLU'. The problem is the line 'under God' in the pledge, which all children in public schools are required to say/hear. Because the government requires the pledge to be recited in public school, it should not contain references to any specific religion or type of religion, in this case monotheism. The goverment should simply not be allowed to require the pledge if it contains a reference to a certain religion. And there are worse things than a nation being officially atheist... an 'officially Christian' nation would be one of them.

Answer 3

if you pray about it and ask the lord for the truth if that's what you seek you will find i did and found the truth but be prepared it wont be what you thought and it will require a lot of work and time the true religion has Always been corrupted since Adam and eve so if you look at all religion as having some truth from the beginning you will find there is only one religion that combines what is True from all and make sense the oldest religion was parsis or known as Zoroastrianism the the Jewish then Christianity Muslim Hindu Buddha cause why would god just talk to one group oof people it wouldnt be fair and in the bible it never says that others didnt have the gospel it said the jews were the chosen yes history has and physics has shown that it could happen in about 1810 there was an earthquake and the missippi river flowed upstream

Answer 4

Actually, your question should more be would Christ approve the efforts of Christians to push their beliefs onto governments? His instructions were very basic, pay your taxes and obey the laws, unless they come into conflict with your learning, teaching, and preaching the Bible, which none of your examples does. Teaching the Bible is a one on one effort and not something found on money or in a ritualistic dedication to a man made government, instead of God's government.

Removing these things, or even all reference to God from government will not stop people from practicing their religion, any more than the USSR did. In fact, now that religion is an active part of the Russian government, there is far more religious persecution than under communism.

Answer 5

Okay take this from a Christain. It is not athiest form of government not to promote any religion above any any other. Our forefathers many religious decided not to promote one religion avove another which leaves us with a generic God...Which is not what Christians should be working toward. Now you have to decide if athiest have a right to believe as they see fit or if the government should force religion on citizens (which by the way is impossible) You might be able to have all Athiest accept this but wouldn't they just be doing so because they were forced and that isn't true faith is it? Christ did not force religion down anyones throat did he? Why do some Christians today think it good to force others to follow Christ. Shouldn't people be free to believe or not believe as thay see fit? or should we opt for the type of governments we fight in the middle east? Would you really prefer a thocracy to a democracy? Now how important is it to you that we promote a non-existant generic god. or do you think our government should promote Chrsitianity? Again we have ourselves a theocracy. Our forefather definitely wanted our people to be free to choose there religions or lack of same. Christ allows us to choose. Why would you not believe in a free choice of what a person chooses to believe?

Answer 6

No. Not unless Government directly states there is no God.

Neutrality is not denial.

Beleive it or not, the YMCA will often let a Jew sleep there if there is room and they need a room desperately.

The Salvation Army is overtly non-sectarian, even though it's somewhat religiously based.

The Constitution of the US expressly allows ANYONE taking FEDERAL OFFICE to NOT use the phrase SO HELP ME GOD if they so chose not to use it.

I'm a beleive in God and JEsus and somewhat of a libertarian, but I'm also opposed to Islamic Terrorists, yet I'd like "under God" and "in God We Trust" removed becase we are

1. Giving God a bad name

2. I don't want to force Jews, Islamics, Buddists, Hindus and Atheists to have to swear an allegiance to anything or anyone they don't want to.

3. I don't think God wants anyone swearing allegeince unless they honestely believe it in their hearts.

I generally HATE the ACLU, but I do support them in this matter.

We have THREE choices in this world

To let RELIGION LEAK loosely into govement

To Make Government ONE official Relgion (and I vote Christian, I vote we make it a Christian nation and make it an amendment to the constitition)

Or Remove relgion of any and all kind from goverment (which is what it's supposed to be, that way in 300 years we won't be chaning the pledege and money to one Nation Under ALLAH, which will bother a lot of people).

We need to either STICK with the framers of the Constitution and keep RELIGION TOTALLY OUT OF GOVERNMENT on an official basis

OR we better declare the US A Christian Nation before some other Religion starts taking a foot hold in Congress.

I will NOT say One Nation Under ALLAH!

The best way to stop this is NO RELIGION at all.

Not in Government.

Religion belongs in the Churchs, Temples, Synegoges, Mosques, Homes and Heart, not in Congress or the Battle Field.

Answer 7

I don't live in the USA so I don't know who this Newdow is. But I can tell you that in my ideal vision of government, the president, PM, etc., should not discuss religions (in favour or against) while he's in office and acting as president, PM, etc.

Taking the "under God" out of the pledge of allegiance doesn't mean you are no longer a believer. It means you don't HAVE to be a believer to pledge allegiance to your nation. And removing the "In God We Trust" motto from the money implies that not all of those who use the money trust in god. NOT that ALL US people don't trust in God. Just that SOME don't, and they have that right. Or else, in the name of not becoming an 'atheist' nation, you'll become a 'theist' nation, where all of you would be forced to surrender to a god, that not everybody believes in.

BTW, here in Argentina, when you take a public office (as president, secretary of state or member of Congress, for instance) you get to choose in whose name you want to take your oath. You may swear in the name of God, of the nation, of the Constitution, of the people... Cannot something like that be applied in the USA?

Answer 8

I believe that government should be religiously neutral, which means that it allows religion, but does not favor any particular one. As you're no doubt tired of hearing, the "under God" was added during the 1950's and is not part of the original Pledge. An officially atheist government would not even allow places of worship to exist, perhaps to the point of raiding worship services and carting people off to jail for worshipping any deity at all.

Answer 9

I believe it was Washington or Adams that said that a democracy with out God as it center cannot stand. All communist countries were democratic at one time. Our democracy, at some point in time, chose to put the government in charge, of what seems to be every aspect of our lives. In the Bible, the Jews, asked God for a king. He told them they did not want a king and explained to them why, and yet they wanted to be like the pagan nations, so he granted them their wish and all the things he said would happen of course did. Man by nature can not be democratic, all you need to do is read about the fall of man in Genesis to see that man was given rule over the earth, but handed this rule over to Satan. This takes all responsibility off of us and pins it on someone else. How many times have you heard this "the devil made me do it?" This country should have remained as it was intended, a republic governed by the Word of God.

Answer 10

Taking all references to God out of government in no way makes the government or country Atheist. Each of our government officials may be very religious. That doesn't mean that references to God must be plastered everywhere.
Don't worry about the government ever declaring the country " Officially Atheist". It won't happen.
I don't object to "in God we trust", but I don't like "under God" because all the time I went to school, it wasn't said that way. It's a johnny-come-lately.