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never heard this preached seems contrary to some things I have been taught

2006-10-14 20:34:07 · 11 answers · asked by icheeknows 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I agree it does sound contrary to the rest of his teachings, but as you know I'm sure Jesus was first commissioned by God to preach to the nation of Israel as they were originally his chosen people. Whilst Jesus was on earth this was the focus of his preaching. It was not until after his resurrection that the disciples were told to make disciples of the Gentile (or pagan) nations. When this poor women came to Jesus pleading for help for her daughter he at first refused her saying "It is not right to take the bread of the children (meaning God's children, the nation of Israel at that time) and throw it to little dogs." Jesus had the responsiblity towards God his father to feed the Israelite nation firstly, however his godly compassion was moved when this dear woman humbly said "Yeas Lord; but really the little dogs do eat of the crumbs falling from the table of their masters". What faith and humility! How Jesus was moved to help this poor lady and her daughter! This shows 2 things. 1. That Jesus always follows the instructions of his father and 2. Where there is an obvious need, Godly love and Justice prevails. Just as when Jesus was told not to heal on the sabbath etc. Jesus is a perfect reflection of his father Jehovah and he can always see the heart even when man cannot.

2006-10-14 20:56:26 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Jesus' ministry was to the Jews and he was the Messiah of the Jews so it's not surprising that he would keep his efforts focused on the Jews.
However, there is evidence in this incident that he was concerned about gentiles too. He and the woman used a Greek word for "dog" that implied, not the pariah dogs of the area that were despised by everyone, but a family pet. In other words, they both used a term which implied endearment but on a lower order then the "masters" or Jews he had come to.
Also, the recorded words do not give the tone in which they were said. Since the woman replied without fear it is probably that the tone Jesus used was one of kindness, perhaps even playfulness.
Jesus could have been trying to draw from her an expression of faith in him so he could use it as an example. Everyone was coming to him for healing but very few recognized who he really was. Obviously, this woman did.

2006-10-15 04:04:09 · answer #2 · answered by Ellen J 7 · 0 0

21-leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon
22- a Canaanite women from the vicinity crying out"Lord Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-Possession"
23- Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him,"Send her away, for she keeps crying after us." 24- He answered " I was sent only the lost sheep of Israel."
25-The lady came and knelt down before him"Lord help me!" she said.
26-He replied," it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
27- "Yes , Lord," she said, " but even the dogs eat crumbs that fall from their masters table."
28- Then Jesus answered," Women, you have great faith! Your request is granted." and her daughter was healed that very hour.
29- Jesus left there and went along the Sea of Galilee, then he went up a mountain side and sat down.

I think the purpose of this passage was a miracle shown in the works with a dog or dogs involved that eat bread.

I have tried get an understanding of it, but I have come to the conclusion that is was just suppose to be a miracle because the lady had strong faith.

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2006-10-15 04:21:25 · answer #3 · answered by Joe J 1 · 0 0

I’ve reviewed this ancient lesson because the issue it raises is not ancient at all. It comes up in the life of the church repeatedly. Every generation has to learn it anew, often in relation to issues that were not faced before. The story from Matthew 15:21–29 is a case in point. The date of that first assembly in Jerusalem we believe to have been 48–50 CE, well within the lifetime of the first generation of Christians. The Gospel of Matthew is one of the latest gospels written, probably some thirty–five years after the assembly at Jerusalem. Matthew's readers then, are second generation Christians who need to deal again with the question of the acceptability of Gentiles into the church.

The point of the story is that a Gentile woman asks Jesus to heal her demon possessed daughter. The disciples want Jesus to send her away. Jesus tells her what many of the Jewish Christians who are Matthew's readers personally believed: I am sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, not to the Gentiles. It isn't fair to give the blessings belonging to the children of the house (read, Israelites) to the house dogs (read, Gentiles).

The use of the word dogs here reminds us of how hostile the feelings between Jews and Gentiles were then. Each referred to the other as dogs. The Jews were dogs to the Gentiles because they denied the polytheism of the Greek and Roman religions. The Gentiles were dogs to the Jews because they did not believe in the monotheism of the one true faith. In other words, their mutual rejection was grounded in their religious convictions.

What does this woman say to Jesus? "Even the dogs get to eat the crumbs that fall from their master's table." What does Jesus say to her? "Great is your faith. Your wish is granted. Your daughter is healed." And what did those early Christians learn from this story? The healing grace of God comes to people through faith, not through their racial or religious genealogy! It comes to women as well as to men. (This is not a story about a man and his son.) It comes to Gentiles as well as Jews. In other words, the gospel breaks through all the boundaries human culture and religion have created. Christians are no longer confined to live within borders Christ himself has crossed. It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to them.

2006-10-15 03:37:04 · answer #4 · answered by Adyghe Ha'Yapheh-Phiyah 6 · 2 0

to understand this you should refer back to Matthew 7:6 about the pearls before swine. Ancient Hebrews referred to the gentiles as dogs and swines, being beneath them, God's choosen people.

Matthew 15:21-29 Jesus is testing this woman's faith by saying a statement of children being better than dogs. The children He is referring to are the children of God, His choosen people and the dogs are the Gentiles. The woman's response tht the dogs still eat because they eat the scraps, she is letting Jesus know that she knows that ALL people are God's children and no one is better than another. God loves all of us and we are all made equal in God's eye. Jesus sees that she has the true faith and understands His Father. Seeing she has true faith, He blesses her by healing her daughter.

2006-10-15 03:47:31 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

O sorry I did not wont to copy it all but Jesus is saying you make a show of worshiping God out side but your heart is not for him I think that is the same today in some churches. it is not what we heat or take in that makes us christian but what we say or give out that shows we are serving God I did not copy all but needed to get the flavour for any with out a bible handy
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mat.%2015;&version=31;
7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
8" 'These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9They worship me in vain;
their teachings are but rules taught by men. (
Isaiah 29:13 )
10Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. 11What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' "

Jesus Feeds the Four Thousand
29Jesus left there and went along the Sea of Galilee. Then he went up on a mountainside and sat down. 30Great crowds came to him, bringing the lame, the blind, the crippled, the mute and many others, and laid them at his feet; and he healed them. 31The people were amazed when they saw the mute speaking, the crippled made well, the lame walking and the blind seeing. And they praised the God of Isr

2006-10-15 03:45:21 · answer #6 · answered by Sam's 6 · 0 1

You're going to have to quote it, because I think a lot of the tree-hugger Christians who like to re-invent Jesus as some fluffy guy who loves everyone don't actually have Bibles and read them. It says:

"Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, 'Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession.' Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, 'Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.'

He answered, 'I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.' The woman came and knelt before him. 'Lord, help me!' she said. He replied, 'It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs.'"

Can't get much clearer than that. God and Jesus both clearly seem to think that lots of people are scum. WAKE UP, PEOPLE! God's not stupid! He's knows most people are scum, just as you do!

2006-10-15 03:41:00 · answer #7 · answered by Hate Boy! 5 · 0 1

There's lots of contradictory stuff within Christianity and the Bible. I agree with the answerer who advises throwing it away.

2006-10-15 03:40:37 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

first to the jews and then to Gentile

2006-10-15 03:52:05 · answer #9 · answered by fikir lehulum 1 · 0 0

Would you like a jelly donut? I have plenty.

2006-10-15 03:37:26 · answer #10 · answered by occifer barbrady 1 · 2 1

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