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I was watching some videos of some soldiers in the war and they looked like they were having the time of their lives killing people.

2006-10-14 06:24:27 · 20 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Military

Sorry that is "Iraqi" not Iragi sorry

2006-10-14 06:28:50 · update #1

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Let’s talk a little about foreign affairs. Having worked in research I am privy to information that is public but not well known.
Anybody who is curious just about how the upper echelon thinks about us should purchase a copy of the Chicago Council on Foreign Affairs 2004 study. There is a question in the questionnaire asking the sample, phd holders, Fortune 500 CEO’s, Cabinet Department Heads, Senators (who mostly refused comment), and even the office of the Executive Branch.
(Funny thing they did not have any average Americans in the sample. The 98% of us that have access to 11% of the working capitol. That’s 253Mil people divided out using the 2004 GNP, $3,300 a year.)
When asked who’s opinion is most valued when making foreign policy decisions, the Pres scored a 6, congress got an 8. Not bad, 8 out of 10. The American Public rated a 2. What does that tell you?
The basis for our Foreign policy is determined by the outcomes of these studies. The current political system relies on ‘research’, in the form of massive amounts of data collection just to write a speech. They are telling you what you want to hear. That is why the last two elections where so close. Both sides do the same things, they hire the same companies, they are mirrors. An illusion of choice at best.
When they want to do anything other then tell you what you want to here, there is a select group of people they ask. Oddly enough, the study sample was referred to as ‘elite’ by the Council. How ironic.
And this group of folks, the Senators won’t talk, they don’t care. The rest of them give the American public a 1, the military folks have a little more respect for the American public, but of course they rate the pres a 10, what else would a military man do?
Basically, the CEO’s make up a large portion of the sample (they modify the tables to reflect extrapolated samples). WHY are we asking CEO’s what we should do with foreign affairs? WHY won’t the Senators chime in? Something is array in the town of Washington.
So, we asked all kinds of wonderful questions, about N. Korea and Uzbekistan, Iran. The answers taken about those situations from CEO’s was used to determine foreign policy. I wonder why it seams the government is out of control.
I really don’t like to think in terms of woulda, coulda, shoulda. All that does is lead to hours of pointless finger pointing and speculation. What is done is done, we cannot undue it. I want to think in terms of what I would do.
The first thing I would like to do is make the foreign affair decisions of the United States determined by a consensus of the people. These guys call 10,000 people in 1 hour to test a statement for a debate. Both sides. But they can’t use the same technology to ask us if we want our families to go slaughter other families for oil profits. I know for a fact with 1 dialer on 1 airport hub you can call and ask everyone a yes or no question in less then 2 weeks. I have worked with the technology that does it.
Back to the subject, I have a more simple approach to this mess we are in. I think it is time for us to break this down. When working on that study I was thinking to myself, ‘these people actually think they are better than everyone else’, teamsters excluded.
We are not dealing with complex republic democratic want to be’s, we are dealing with individual leaders. Given that, you could almost say we are dealing with a human. Okay, so we are dealing with a human. Now we can relate.
We have to do what we do as good people. People have forgotten that Americans are good people because the only side of us they see is the sword. We got pens you know.
I think the easiest way for me to express my point is an analogy.
Imagine that the world is a middle school recess. We can all relate to that right?
We have characters. They can be represented many ways. I have a story featuring little Johnny Afghanistan.
The arm of the US they see can be represented by Tommy Tuff Guy, the school bully. Tommy is able to get away with whatever he wants. His parents (the American Public) does not know what Tommy really is doing. They ask him to act a certain way, to respect others and their possessions, but Tommy does what he wants.
Tommy has a rival Bully, Rusky Russia. Rusky Russia has been trying to manipulate Johnny Afghanistan to do his bidding. When Tommy gets wind of this, he bribes Johnny to go kick Russia in the nuts. So, Johnny does it, gets a black eye and goes back to collect his snickers bar. This goes on for some time, until all of Johnny’s friends and family are kicking Russia incessantly in the nuts for candy and food. Then one day Russia transfers to another school. Johnny asks Tommy who he can kick in the nuts for candy, and Johnny tells him to piss off. His friends and family now reliant on Tommy’s candy now start to wail with hunger. So Johnny, hearing his families cries, thinks about revenge. He could not possibly attack the bully, Tommy, his too strong, he has all the new weapons, and he has a gang, the little rascals. England, France, everybody ready to throw down because they are afraid that Tommy will not let them play with the toys anymore. So Tommy eggs the parent’s house. After all, Tommy thinks the Parents make the decisions, that is what happens in his family. And the parents are enraged and call the principal. And the principal issues punishment. Tommy neither gets a hand or a chance to speak his peace.
The point I am trying to make is:
America needs to start respecting the rest of the world. Instead of bomb, build. We should ask these people what we have done. We spend millions doing pointless research about pointless statements meant to woo the public. Lets use those resources to ask those people what has been done to hurt them. Then explain that we are sorry that our government got out of control. Offer them a handshake of peace instead of a handshake of terror. That is why they say we are terrorists. Because when we come to the negotiating table people’s hands shake. I don’t think Teddy meant this when he said “speak softly and carry a big stick”.
Then, let’s explain in a unified voice. We are here to help. Lets bring them industry. Let’s put laptops (they are making a windup for $100) in their lap. Let’s give them access to the internet and the knowledge that comes with it. WE CANNOT HOLD SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE WHO LIVES IN A COUNTRY WITH A 99% ILLITERACY RATE. They do not even know what freedom is. All they know is that we blew up their relatives who never personally attacked any Americans. They barely know who we are.
WE can change what WE are doing to the world. But we need a voice.
If we do not address these issues that the rest of the world has with us, the will have their way with us.
One by one, we can correct the mistakes we have made. In a personal relationship, a well adjusted person listens to the other party, and extends an open mind and a respect for the ability of the other party to make their own decisions. Let’s just apply this basic principal of communication to the world.
For a long time, our country has had a history of making mistakes and not admitting them.
Why don’t we just open the files and take a look. :Lets make it public, lets apologize, and lets change as one nation, together, United we stand, divided they will do what they want.
I have much more, but that is good for now.

2006-10-14 06:26:47 · answer #1 · answered by dolphinparty13 2 · 0 9

Soldiers are as diverse as humanity itself. Often a very heterogenous group of individuals from different cultures, different lifestyles, and different values. Thrown into a situation that would try the best man's soul. They make mistakes just like the rest of us and sometimes their mistakes are exaggerated beyond reason because they are soldiers. Most are honorable men and women with a deep desire to DO THE RIGHT THING. The greatest problem with bad soldiers is often the leadership they have. When they point the finger at bad performance on the part of a soldier they should always show their commanding officer, and I don't mean the field grunt sergeant in charge of the squad but the company commander and higher. They are the ones who set the tone for how their units act.

2006-10-14 06:35:58 · answer #2 · answered by hoover 2 · 0 0

Is it at all possible that instead of having fun, the soldiers in the videos were actually just being tactical and efficient at their jobs? In war, fear is a disease, you don't let it show itself or it will infect everyone and then things get even worse. And from the "it's your or me, buddy" standpoint, I'll take having my husband come home, regardless of what he has to do, any day of the week. The only videos I've ever seen where soldiers were whooping and hollering over something was when they would use a fabulously set pump house explosion to start an orchard on fire (heh heh, fire), but that was after the enemies had been run off, so aside from loss of replaceable property, no one was actually hurt.

2006-10-14 06:44:11 · answer #3 · answered by desiderio 5 · 2 0

People jump out of perfectly good airplanes as well and right off of sturdy bridges with nothing but a rubber band to support them - all for a good time.

It's called the "warrior culture", something you wouldn't be familiar with. If the closest you're going to get to combat is some video clip without doing some responsible research (a compilation of firsthand interviews, for instance) you have no business trying to judge any of this with the sort of meager intellect you possess.

As for the destruction of Iraqi citizens, I remind you that we are working alongside Iraqi military and police units this very moment you are reading this to rebuild their country. Before you even think about mouthing off on that, go read what the Russian military did to Chechnya. Go read on what happened when they laid siege to Grozny - twice.

I guarantee you that if you're American, you didn't see any of the images that most of the world saw of what thermobarics do to cities, or packs of feral dogs leaving nothing but ribcages and pelvic bones on human bodies.

And no, not all of us whoop and holler during firefights either. Personally I grit my teeth and the rate at which I use invectives rises by more than a few notches.

Next time you post a question, either have it informed by some sort of legitimate analysis, or actually think it through before trying to push a conclusion.

2006-10-14 07:34:38 · answer #4 · answered by Nat 5 · 3 0

How is the worldwide making the most of the blood of our infantrymen? U.S. militia presence interior the midsection east has extra approximately 1000's of civilian deaths, and that's a actuality. conflict in simple terms isn't the respond for each little thing. in actuality the U.S. must be helping the worldwide so lots greater if the militia interceded in themes including worldwide poverty, the aids epidemic, and different volatile dictators outdoors of the midsection east. you may call for in spite of you want, yet that would not yield any significant effects.

2016-10-19 09:36:02 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

They are not laughing at the killing. But if you are pinned down and being fired at and the person is hit you my yell out.

We are at war. A war that is not going to end even if we pull out of Iraq. We would be in it even if we never went to Iraq. It does not matter if they can read.We are not Muslims and this is a crime to them and they are the hands of god. This war will not end with in OUR LIFE TIME. Our kids and grand kids will be fighting it. Our only hope is to keep it over there. the EU will fall from with in with in the next 50years. many of the counties in the EU will be Islamic states with in our lives. I am not the only one to say this. Many that study the mideast see it coming. It has been planed for many years.

2006-10-14 06:39:04 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

The Iraqi's laughed and celebrated in the streets after the bombings on 9/11, why is that??? The people that died then were civilians, mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, I don't find humor in that.

2006-10-14 06:38:40 · answer #7 · answered by sprice 1 · 3 0

War makes some people crazy. Some of those soldiers do not want to be there killing anybody. They are forced to be there and they are going nuts. God Bless everyone in Iraq.

2006-10-14 06:33:06 · answer #8 · answered by Wiser1 6 · 1 1

I guess you don't watch television my boy. How about when they strike down a black hawk helicopter? Have you seen those animals laugh at the Americans and pull their bodies out or strecth them out in the street for people to see and gawked at them. Let my fellow man laugh, that is the only thing he can do at this time instead of crying his heart out because he is there.
Mind your business.....little boy. Or joint in so you can laugh too.

2006-10-14 06:50:46 · answer #9 · answered by Boricua Born 5 · 3 0

That is the liberal media trying brainwash you. Our troops do not take pleasure in killing. The tapes are tampered with or taken out of context.

2006-10-14 06:59:14 · answer #10 · answered by Leah 6 · 2 0

Better to chuckle at catastrophe and sneer at defeat than turn tail and run

2006-10-14 09:11:26 · answer #11 · answered by Its not me Its u 7 · 1 0

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