do mormons belioeve that satan told the truth in the garden of eden?

Question

i have read that the mormon teaching say that the fall of man in the garden of eden was an essintal step in life. i do not understand this because god made man perfect and wanted us perfect. he gave us ONE rule to follow. satan told adeam and eve otherwise and he lied and said god was wrong. we believed him and sinned. it was wrong. what do mormons really believe?

Answer 1

Never mind what mormons or morons believe; For even devils "believe" there is one God, and the objective of "ye shall know the truth... shall make you free", isn't believe, but know. The exhortation is "believe not" every spirit, but rather try (test drive) the spirits, to know which one of two (spirit of truth: grace and spirit of error: law) is antichrist: anti-the end of the law.

Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression: 1Tim 2:14. But where no law, there no transgression: Rom 4:15. So the woman being deceived was in the law. What law? The law(enmity), of commandments in Gen 2:16 + 17(grace + law) Christ abolished: Eph 2:15 to become our peace.

As for the serpent, didn't he ask the woman: "hath God said" ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? Her answer should have been no, God would never say this, for God(Grace) cannot lie(law), and that is why God(Grace) cannot die.

POINT: Gen 2:16 -vs- 17 is an oxymoron: every tree -vs- not every tree. And when both are taken together the result is My God my God why hast thou forsaken me? For two Gods is one too many, especially if they say different things such as "I will forsake you" and "I will never leave thee nor forsake thee".

It's "allegory" in both "covenants": Gal 4; and it's about law vs grace, two spirits to try (test drive) as if testing driving two Gods.

You've obviously test driven the spirit of error. Why not also test drive the spirit of truth. Perhaps the comparison you'll find is law is not sufficient and grace is sufficient.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Answer 2

There are many parts to what Satan said in the Garden. Much of what he said was lies. But Satan often uses half-truths to decieve. Think of when he tempted Jesus Christ. He was quoting scriptures. None of us would be here if Adam and Eve hadn't eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They were innocent like children and didn't know how to multiply and replenish the earth.

Answer 3

We believe Satan tempted Eve, he thought he was ruining God's plan...but in fact, he was helping put it into action and of course God knew this. If Satan knew the end from the beginning, as God does, do you think he would have ever gotten Eve to partake of the fruit? He would have known it would bring about mankind, Jesus would come to the earth, the gospel would be restored, and good would eventually win over evil and Satan would be bound forever. Do you think Satan would have tempted Eve if he would have know it would ultimately bring about his eternal damnation???
It was all part of the eternal plan of salvation our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ set forth for us.

Answer 4

First of all, I am going to give you a new word : transgression. There is a difference between the word "sin" and the word "transgression." Both are equally valid words, but they have slightly different meanings. First of all, sin might be defined as committing some action which is not in alignment with the will of God. Usually it is pretty obvious, as most of us know what God's commandments are, or if we don't, we have a conscience to tell us we did something wrong. The meaning of "transgression" is different. It means breaking a law, but it isn't necessarily a cardinal or serious sin. We often refer to Adam and Eve as having "transgressed" the law. What happened was they broke one law or rule, that is, they ate of the forbidden fruit, but in doing so they passed on to a different state of existence, where they could keep another law in the near future, to multiply and replenish the earth (to have a family). Let me say that the only transgression was in eating that forbidden fruit. Satan actually told one truth and one lie, which is one of his favorite ways to try to deceive people. He told Eve that if she were to eat the fruit, she wouldn't die but would have knowledge of good and evil, like God. This was a half-truth - that is to say, there was one lie in that statement and one truth. Eating the forbidden fruit led to having more knowledge, but it also introduced the seeds of decay and entropy (wearing out, or corruption) into the world that God had created. In other words, it introduced physical death into the world. You can see that it is still the same today - people in the world have diseases and other afflictions, and everyone passes through death. Because of the transgression or disobeying the commandment not to eat of the forbidden fruit, spiritual death was also introduced into the world, that is "sin" separates us from the presence of God. Again, it was not a serious sin, but a transgression. Adam and Eve had to choose to transgress the law, because God could not command His children to choose physical and spiritual death. First of all, we have our free agency. And second of all, God does not tell us to break His own laws. It had to be a choice coming from Adam and Eve themselves. They had to learn the consequences of breaking spiritual and physical laws - which is what we are all still learning for ourselves. God wants us to learn to use our free agency to choose the right, but He cannot tell us to make mistakes or transgressions in order to find out what the consequences are. I hope that makes sense. By the way, you have some good questions, and you might want to ask them of sister missionaries in your area who can back it up with more precise answers and scriptures. They have time to teach these things in detail. Just a thought. Have a happy day.

Answer 5

The fall of man was an essential step. Without the fall, Adam of Eve would still be living in the Garden of Eden, without a knowledge of good and evil and we would still not be living on this planet. In the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve were in a state of innocence, they didn't know good from evil. God wants us all to know good from evil and choose the good. In the Garden of Eden, Satan did what he often does, he mixed the truth with lies. God told Adam that the day he ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil he would surely die. Satan told Adam that he would not die. This was a lie. Satan did not lie when he said this in Genesis 3:5 "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." God himself confirmed that this wasn't a lie later in the same chapter in Genesis 3:22: And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Satan's plan was to get Adam and Eve to take of the tree of good and evil and then to convince Adam and Eve to take of the fruit of the tree of life. This would have made Adam and Eve live forever in their sins. God allowed Satan to complete the first part of his plan in convincing Adam and Eve to take of the fruit of the tree of life. But God upset Satan's plan by putting cherubims to guard the tree of life. This way man will die as God said and will not live forever in his sins. God provided a way through Jesus Christ for all of us to overcome our sins in this world. God's wisdom is greater than the cunning of the devil. Satan's plan failed and God was able to use the fall of man to help men progress.

Answer 6

I don't know

I wasn't there! and..... I don't believe everything I read! Do you?