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Opinion
Keep immigration debate civil
Friday, September 15, 2006 2:05 PM CDT
Arnold Schwarzenegger
By not finishing comprehensive immigration reform this year, Congress left behind a poisoned debate that will continue to fuel a growing anger in our country.
Hispanic leaders, meeting in Los Angeles last week, were already debating whether they should continue marching in the streets, disrupt the economy or register voters. At the same time, people who are angry about the federal government’s failure to stop illegal immigration have introduced local measures to take away housing, jobs and even medical assistance from noncitizens in their communities. On both sides, people are demanding to be heard.
Now Congress has walked away from the debate, at least for this year. So it’s up to the rest of us to tone down our rhetoric and listen to the voices on all sides. As an immigrant to this country and a proud American citizen, I have a unique perspective (Cont. link)http://rds.yahoo.com/S=53720272/K=illegal+immigration/v=2/SID=e/l=NSR/R=25/;_ylt=A9htfMJx8jBFvAoB0gzQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBkdHNpdDlqBHBvcwMyNQRzZWMDc3I-/SIG=12nqmmg27/EXP=1160922098/*-http%3A//www.agweekly.com/articles/2006/10/12/news/opinion/opin03.txt

I know how you feel Katsulover, it happens to me all the time, I just chock it up to stupidity and carry on.

I have recieved too many excellent answers to choose a single one objectively. This one is going to a vote.

Answer 1

My ancestors were here first, all people who are invaders from Europe and came illegally please form a single line and leave immidatetly. lol

Answer 2

My fraternal grandparents were LEGAL immigrants. America has no problem with legal immigrants, our issue is with illegal immigration. To say our government has been complacent in the enforcement of our sovereign immigration law is an understatement. At the same time attempting to stuff the controversy under the carpet by blaming the government brings no solution.

Illegal immigration has negatively impacted the lives of middle class Americans and those who were already struggling to get by. The upper class and the rich encourage the cheap labor, but are insulated from the resulting influx of poor, uneducated people flooding our country.

There is not a facet of American life that this issue has not touched, especially our educational system, which, here in California, has gone from schools which were the envy of the rest of the country, to a third world situation. This sort of activity is commonplace in California: http://www.dailybulletin.com/news/ci_4488481

Arnold is a girly man who is courting the Hispanic vote and wets himself every time he is forced to sign something which may anger that voting block. If you stop to think about it though, that in itself is hilarious considering that they make up less than 20% of those who will actually vote.

I'm sick of listening to "the other side." Illegal immigration is just that--illegal. Our government needs to enforce current laws. Then there would be no need for discussion.

Answer 3

It is one opinion only. Politicians never seem to tackle tough issues in election year. It is immigrants, even those who are naturalized citizens, that are getting all the publicity. The real issue as I see it is the failure to enforce the laws that are already on the books. Building fences is just a sop to citizens. What is really needed is severe punishment for those employers who hire illegals at illegal rates is the real problem. There would not be an immigrant problem if this one rule was actually enforced. If illegals cannot support their existent then the desire to enter this country or any country would dry up. Those who enter Mexico illegally are a big problem for the Mexican government. The Mexican government just hopes these illegals will enter the US so they will no longer be a Mexican problem. If any laws should be passed it seems to me that more pressure should be put on the Mexican government.

Answer 4

It seems to me that there should be no argument about immigration. It is a cut and dried situation. On one side, which is wrong, you have illegal immigrants. On the other side, which is right, you have people wanting the laws of the nation enforced. The wrong side wants to debate the issue as if there is anything to debate. The right side wants to solve the problem as best it can be solved and with mercy where possible but TO ENFORCE THE LAWS UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES. As always, the side that is wrong is using every possible unfair and even dirty tactics to cloud the issues to make it seem that they have grounds for having an argument.

Answer 5

If enough happens on the local levels and representatives change in the coming voting for Congress, most likely the talks will be to some avail in the future. I believe the President has come to awareness that his plan of amnesty wasn't such a good one for re-elections. Plus he has bigger problems. The world has changed since 9/11 as documented aliens are important as are all legal citizens. If legal channels are not followed then what control would there be to have a safe country. Were not just talking for illegal Mexicans, were talking about all illegal aliens from Saudi Arabians to Chinese and anywhere else.

Answer 6

Remember that this is all coming from a guy who got himself naturalized, then elected governor, and decided to drive around with no US driver's license 'til he finally got told he needed one...
in other words, another rich guy from somewhere else that thinks he knows what's best for america who basically bought his way into public office. I liked his movies, but I don't think his role as governor will be anywhere near as memorable as the Terminator role was...California's swimming in red ink, and the way you get out of debt is to cut spending. I read that he pushed for a 30 billion dollar bond or something...and he supports building schools for Mexico's kids etc. Mexico needs to build their own damn schools and hospitals, and stop living off the United States.
If they're soooooo 'hard-working', ok, let's see em slap together 200 or so reinforced adobe school houses, do the same with shopping malls and hospitals, jails, the whole trip. They can even have a mariachi band out in front of each one, and a lowrider bouncing contest on Thursdays or something, so long as all this construction takes place IN Mexico, and the United States doesn't end up having to foot the bill for it
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Mexico needs reforms, and they'll never achieve em so long as our country is their perpetual 'easy out'.

When California jumps off the deep end into the red-ink pool, the other 49 states have to help carry em. There's lots of endearing terms for California, including the 'California People's Republic', bottom line is, we shouldn't have to pay for their fiscal and administrative screwups. Los Angeles and San Francisco are 'amnesty cities', where the immigration enforcement people can't get and deport illegal aliens. I think Illinois is another place where they have that.

Nationally, there has to be a standardized approach to dealing with illegal immigration. This isn't rocket science, it's getting other countries, such as and primarily Mexico, to stand up and try a heck of a lot harder to get their citizens employed, their economies happening, their kids educated, their streets safer, so they're not trying to live off us for all perpetuity. Keep in mind that currently, Mexico's 'domestic policy' amounts to 'move to the United States'. That's just not gonna work out...at least, not if the voters have anything to say about it, still...

I support the border fence, because I strongly believe that it'll be a great thing for both countries to kind of have a little 'time out' from all of this mess. America's got domestic problems, Mexico's got domestic problems, put in the fence, and everyone work on their own problems for a while...

Answer 7

I agree with most of what he said, except this: It is hypocritical for Congress to condemn people for coming here illegally when the federal government has been unwilling to do what it takes to stop them from coming in the first place.


I do not think that because we have not been as forceful as we should, that it is OK for them to come. That is like saying because the bank security guard did not show up for work, that it was okay for me to rob the bank.

Answer 8

He wants a guest worker program for business, and is for in state tuition (though he recently veto'd government outright tuition grants to illegals). I agree with much of what he said but suspect I am far apart from him on some very key issues. The problem with Arnold is that no one he knows sends their kids to public schools, and the ruin of public schools in California doesn't shape his policy.

Answer 9

Evidently we cant keep it civil on this forum,Yesterday I posted (cut and pasted)for accuracy,the 4 new laws that Arizona is offering to its voters in November.I ask was Arizona leading the way ,in the illegal alien problem.Well some unfair biased person filed a violation notice on FACTS not insults,not degrading names,but on FACTS
If you don't like what I post then be man/woman enough to contact me personally but don't make untruthful violation reports.I NEVER use derogatory name calling or racists words .I USE AND PRINT FACTS,not lies.
So to whoever reported my FACT post,why don't you email me and be brave enough to discuss your problem with me .I am always glad to do that and I will always be civil.I'm sorry renegade it just bothers me when people are so low as to report FACTS as a violation.

Answer 10

Illegals need to follow their trail back to Mexico.

Answer 11

I think you will find that most people do not have a problem with legal immigrants!