EVANGELISTIC Athiests, if there is no GUIDING force, PROVE IT!!!!!?

Question

I'M WAITING!

Answer 1

Prove there is no asparagus on Mars.

Answer 2

First, you have to define the term "God." The problem with most theists is that this term is a moving target.

In addition, because there is no evidence either for or against the existence of God, you cannot use deductive logic (a+b=c; therefore c-b=a). You can only reach a conclusion by inductive reasoning using the balance of evidence (90% of A is also B; C is B, so the chances are 90% that C is also A).

I will assert (and others may shoot this down) that the only RELEVANT definition of God states that he intervenes to circumvent natural laws.

If God circumvents natural laws, then it is impossible to understand natural laws. All scientific findings would have to include the stipulation, "it is also possible that these results are an act of God, a miracle, thereby making our research meaningless."

However, since we have been able to expand our knowledge of natural laws (evidenced by every appliance in your kitchen), the scientific method works in this discovery. And the likely conclusion is that God, at least the intervening kind, does not exist.

Additionally, if God is defined as all loving, all powerful, and all knowing, then it is impossible to explain suffering. Either God is not all loving (he acts sadistically), not all powerful (he cannot prevent suffering), or not all knowing (he created suffering by mistake because he didn't know the consequences of his actions).

If God is less than these and/or does not intervene in our existence, then he is either non-existent or irrelevant. The classic argument is that I cannot prove that a china teapot is orbiting the sun directly across from the earth's orbit. But while I cannot prove this is not true, the evidence against it is compelling.

The evidence against God is equally compelling, and while it is not possible to prove beyond any doubt, it makes more sense to live your life as if there were not God.

It is more compelling to me that humans have invented God to reflect the thoughts of the ruling powers in a particular time. Because humans are always looking for reasons, when none are found, it was the natural inclination to declare the cause to be "God" (or gods). As the faith grew, miracles and laws have been ascribed to this Divinity, and an orthodoxy grows up around it.

Successful religions over the long run also are accompanied by some level of economic well-being to the populace. Unsuccessful ones are seen as false because they don't lead to improved lives.

Now it seems unhelpful to believe in such superstition. The only matters that aid in our ongoing well being are work, location, health, sustenance, and pure, blind luck.

So no, I don't believe God exists. And you know what? It's okay if you do believe God exists.

Answer 3

By guiding force you mean god? If you mean god, we can't prove god doesn't exist the same way we can't prove that maybe somewhere (in this universe or something other world) there aren't gobblins, fairies, or santa claus. We can, however, prove that certain religious doctrines are contradictory to subjects like history or science which are based on evidence rather than belief (like god is).

Answer 4

"Evangelistic atheist"-talk sense. How many of them are there. Face facts most atheists don't care about you or your make believe deity-they don't need to prove anything to anybody because disbelief requires no proof. The onus of proof is on you so stop trying to change the philosophical goalposts.

Answer 5

Prove there is and then we'll test your evidence, remeber you are the one making the claim that there is a guiding force, he who makes a claim must be able to prove it...K!

Answer 6

Of course there is a guiding force. It is the intellect that every human has. It guides us in our decisions and actions and, so far, it has done a pretty good job guiding me.

Must you insist I call it God?