Trinitarians?

Question

Someone said God was in heaven and on the cross at the same time but note... the belief is that they are two different persons with one nature to believe that the Father is the Son and the Son is the Spirit and the Spirit is the Father is not true according to Trinitarian belief but they are all One God... am I wrong?

Answer 1

that is a very confusing way to put your question, the easiest way to explain it is. just as father, mother and son make up a family.
the father son and holy spirit make up the god head.
it is not one god but one godhead.

Answer 2

Did you notice that PaulCyp based his trinitarian belief on the Athanasian Creed and not the Bible? Why did he do that? Simple. The trinity doctrine is not based on the Bible. The verses that are used to support it are taken way out of context. For instance, a trinitarian is quick to jump on John 10:30, where Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." Where in that verse does it say that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are three co-equal, co-eternal persons that comprise one God? It doesn't. How about John 1:1, where it says in some, but NOT all Bible versions that "the Word was God." Where in that verse does it say that God is made up of three divine persons? It doesn't. Show me one verse in the Bible that uses the term "God the Son" or even "God the Holy Spirit." You won't find it because it is NOT there. The previous responder said that Paul called Jesus God. I'd like him to tell me this: If Jesus is God, who is the mediator BETWEEN God and men, according to 1Tim. 2:5? Is Jesus between himself and men? That doesn't make any sense. The truth of the matter is that trinity doctrine is not supported by Scripture!

Answer 3

There is no such thing as the Trinity, This is largest lie that Satan uses to keep people from knowing who the True God is, if he can do this, he's got you.

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) How do these words confirm that Jesus is not Almighty God?

Jesus says that the Father knows more than the Son does. If Jesus were part of Almighty God, however, he would know the same facts as his Father. So, then, the Son and the Father cannot be equal. Yet, some will say: ‘Jesus had two natures. Here he speaks as a man.’ But even if that were so, what about the holy spirit? If it is part of the same God as the Father, why does Jesus not say that it knows what the Father knows?

1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice. Joh 6:56, 57.

Jesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18) does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. (Ge 6:2, 4; Job 1:6) However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense,

Jesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] . . . gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3;


Rev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, why did God have to give the revelation to Jesus, if he is God? .

Does the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)

John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven.

A person who is really seeking to know the truth about God is not going to search the Bible hoping to find a text that he can construe as fitting what he already believes. He wants to know what God’s Word itself says. He may find some texts that he feels can be read in more than one way, but when these are compared with other Biblical statements on the same subject their meaning will become clear. It should be noted at the outset that most of the texts used as “proof” of the Trinity actually mention only two persons, not three; so even if the Trinitarian explanation of the texts were correct, these would not prove that the Bible teaches the Trinity.

Answer 4

I'm not sure what you mean so I'll write this. You are one person but you have differant parts. So does God. Some people find it hard to believe that God is everywhere all the time. God is God., Jesus is His words, the Holy Spirit is His hands(lets just say). If God can do ANYTHING, why isn't He able to make His words flesh and send His hands to prove His words are true? "In the begining was the Word, and the Word was withGod, and the Word was God." John 1:1

Answer 5

Yes, that is correct. One of the most precise descriptions of the Trinity is an ancient document called the Athanasian Creed. Here is the part dealing with the Trinity ...

"...we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity;

Neither confounding the persons nor dividing the substance.

For there is one person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit.

But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is all one, the glory equal, the majesty coeternal.

Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit.

The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit uncreated.

The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible.

The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal.

And yet they are not three eternals but one eternal.

As also there are not three uncreated nor three incomprehensible, but one uncreated and one incomprehensible.

So likewise the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Spirit almighty.

And yet they are not three almighties, but one almighty.

So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God;

And yet they are not three Gods, but one God.

So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Spirit Lord;

And yet they are not three Lords but one Lord.

For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord;

So are we forbidden by the Catholic religion to say; There are three Gods or three Lords.

The Father is made of none, neither created nor begotten.

The Son is of the Father alone; not made nor created, but begotten.

The Holy Spirit is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.

So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Spirit, not three Holy Spirits.

And in this Trinity none is afore or after another; none is greater or less than another.

But the whole three persons are coeternal, and coequal.

So that in all things, as aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped.

He therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity.

Answer 6

He cried out "Father forgive them they know not what they do". He prayed to the Father.He said "Think not that my Father couldn't send a hundred angels to help me?"His Father spoke in Matthew 17,also at His baptism ...He says in John14 etc ,He's going to send the "Comforter"the Holy Spirit.Peter calls the Holy Spirit God,in Acts 5.Thomas calls Jesus God,Paul calls Jesus God in Titus and other places . It's 1x1x1=1 God....not 1+1+1=3 gods.

Answer 7

Matthew 14:11
Believe me that ( I AM in the Father,) and the (FATHER in ME); or else believe me for the very works' sake

Matthew 14:7
IF YE had known ME, YE should have known my Father also; and from henceforth Ye know him, and have SEEN HIM

1 John 5:7
For there are THREE that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these Three are One

1 John 5:8
And there are Three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these Three are One.

Answer 8

To believe in the trinity is to believe in the Godhead. That is three separate personalities in one God head. When I was still a Christian I explained it by using an apple. You have the apple peel, the meat of the apple and the apple core. Three separate pieces of the apple, but all one apple.

Now that I am pagan I use the example of one Deity with many aspects, like a diamond has many facets but one stone.

Answer 9

The trinity concept is very complex. I have been seriously studying it for 50 years and only just beginning to get a grip on it. If you are serious check out the Urantia Book.