freedom? The reason many many people migrated here from England was to escape the rath of queen Elizabeth who was having peoples heads cut off that did not believe in her religion!!! She had Sir Latamar steed cut into 12 different pieces, whom by the way was an advisor to the previous kind, her father!!! And she had the pieces displayed publically through England!!! But all of our founding fathers believed in the one and only true God Jehova!!!! So for those of you that don't, I say, get thee behind me satan. If you write me a nasty message back, I pray that the one and only true God, the one you know exists, blesses you with exactly what you deserve for your evil perversed behavior!!!!! In Jesus name I pray Amen!!!!!!!
2006-10-13 17:00:53 · 9 answers · asked by Tammy C 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
What is ironic is that many of the people who came over here from England established Anglican churches (C of E). Actually, King Henry the VIII was two rulers removed from Queen Elizabeth I. King Edward the VI and Queen Mary (better known as Bloody Mary who put to death at least 685 Protestants) ruled in the interm. Actually, Elizabeth made a compromise church between the Roman Catholic (which Mary was) and the Protestant (which Edward was). Henry VIII's church was a Roman Catholic church. The only difference was that Henry made himself the head of the church. If anyone was known for chopping heads in that family, it was Mary.
2006-10-13 17:09:43 · answer #1 · answered by Purdey EP 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
"But all of our founding fathers believed in the one and only true God Jehova!!!!"
There are some quotes that I think you would find interesting. Give me a second.
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"The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites."
- Thomas Jefferson
"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."
- Ben Franklin
"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."
"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."
- John Adams
Yeah, and the guy a couple answers below me gave quotes from Thomas Paine and James Madison, too. I'd like to hear your response to these quotes.
2006-10-13 17:03:26 · answer #2 · answered by . 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Um... you DO realize, of course, that the "under God" part of the pledge that you quoted wasn't in the original version, right? Right?
You DO realize that it was added in 1954 after campaigning by the Knights of Columbus, in order to separate the US from Dem Godless Commies In Russia, right?
Right?
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That's that "Christian Love" thing showing again, innit?
2006-10-13 17:05:05 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
Noelle, that's no longer that straightforward. God has demands on our time and our strikes. i became as quickly as a Methodist and tried to stay the existence of a believer. yet i could no longer. I examine the Bible for help, for convenience, for peace - and located no longer something. I became away because of the fact after 30+ years I have been given skipped over. no one is listening available. And BTW, you may properly be as straightforward-minded as you like. you will nonetheless get royally shafted no rely how plenty you think.
2016-10-02 06:59:43 · answer #4 · answered by vishvanath 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
We are a nation divided. We were built upon religious freedom, not christianity. You are quite mistaken about our founding fathers as well. Here are some quotes from the founding fathers you seem so eager to tout.
President John Adams - As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that has ever existed?"
James Madison - "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."
Thomas Paine - “I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of....Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and of my own part, I disbelieve them all.” “What is it the Bible teaches us? — rapine, cruelty, and murder.” “It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible.”
Jefferson’s interpretation of the first amendment in a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association (January 1, 1802):
“Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between church and State.”
From Jefferson’s biography:
“...an amendment was proposed by inserting the words, ‘Jesus Christ...the holy author of our religion,’ which was rejected ‘By a great majority in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mohammedan, the Hindoo and the Infidel of every denomination.’”
Jefferson’s “The Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom”:
“Our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, more than on our opinions in physics and geometry....The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”
From Thomas Jefferson’s Bible:
“The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.”
Addtional important quote from Thomas Jefferson: I have examined all the known superstitions of the word, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth.”
President John Adams - Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli (June 7, 1797). Article 11 states:
“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion."
Also from John Adams - “I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved — the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!”
Many of the founding fathers were Deists and held that christianity was the worst thing to have happened to mankind. Thomas Jefferson even rewrote the new testament, taking out the miracles and the dogma, portraying jesus as an ordinary man. They wanted religious FREEDOM from the tyranny that christianity brings. We were not and are not a christian nation.
2006-10-13 17:03:27 · answer #5 · answered by Medusa 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Okay, Babylon, made by god for god, Rome, by god for god, Greece, by god, for god. So this great nation forged by the blood of patriots who cried before their deaths, Jesus, made by god and for god. Any nation which has persecuted Christan's became nothing but a Page in the history books. Want proof because you live by knowledge and by sight, look to this world run by worldly men and women puffed up with their god given freedoms. mothers running off to work because daddy's a dead beat, not gods way, men becoming ignorant, little cry babies and slaves to their women, not gods way. you want proof all you need to do is look in the mirror, everything is wrong and why you ask because you forgot the god of your fathers, the lord who gave you this peace and this prosperity. America won against the British not by their military might, but by the hand of god. And unbelievers, you have had enough warning, when you are crying in a trench for your life I WILL BE THERE, fearless before death, telling you in your last seconds of life, do you accept me as your lord and savior?
2006-10-13 19:04:40 · answer #6 · answered by Eloy B 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
You are so wrong. Many were not believers.
In god we trust and one nation under god are both phased added not by our founding fathers, but in the 1950s
I have done my best to compliment the parrot's list
2006-10-13 17:04:23 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
I'm a Christian myself, and God knows I agree with you.
But I draw the line at calling people Satan because they don't agree with you. And it may do you some good to read Matthew 7:12 before posting public statements.
2006-10-13 17:10:06 · answer #8 · answered by Privratnik 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Yeah... did you know the the God stuff in the pledge and on money was put on later? Mid 20th century kind of later. So that kind of stuff is not what out forefathers intended.
2006-10-13 17:06:07 · answer #9 · answered by Phil 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋