A curious question for christians who say Jesus is also God.?

Question

first ,let me say that I respect you and your beliefs eventhough I disagree with you on some of them. and peace to you all.

As a muslim I believe that only God (Allah or you may call him yahweh and he is laso known by terms like the most beautifull, most powerfull , all-knowing , etc ) is God.



if you say that jesus is also God then may I ask you 2 questions?

1-dont you belive that he(God) is so much great and perfect in all the respect(beauty, power, knowledge, kindness,love , etc) that he is incomparable with all other beings.no other being is even close to him in beauty ,power, etc. he is the source.
he is like a painter and all the other beings are like his paintings.
don't you agree that our beauties and nowledges and etc are just some small shadows of his light.
don't you believe that he was the cause of all causes.
and can there ultimately be more than one "cause of all causes"? like 3 "cause of all causes"?
can there be two most beautifull ??I want to call the most beautifull "beloved" can there ultimately be 2 or 3 beloved??
or we are in a journey to ultimately reach to our One beloved
,the source of beauty , power ,etc?


2-if there were more than one God (lets say 3 or 2), there should be some characteristics in common between these Gods and some uncommon or different
(because if all the things were the same we wouldnt say 3 we would say one) , so then each God would be made of 2 parts: one common part and one exclusive
part and Gods would be compound, but God is not compound like us ,because he is the source, he is a being that we no longer have to say: ok where is the source of his components!!!
this is for those who say "there is One God but he is consisted of Jesus , Holy spirit and
the father", I think God is a being that we no longer have to wonder about the sourse of his 3 parts, and he is the sourse he is not compound.


and also if there were more than one God, one God would lack the exclusive part of other Gods , God and lacking????

peace to you.

to john :
but jesus said I do not know the hour only God knows
so he differs between himself and God(the fahter as you may say)

ok we are compound 1-body, 2-mind and 3-spirit
or some one may categorize it to
1-body 2-mind 3-emotions 4-spirit
we are compound and it doesnt make any problem because we know that we are not perfect

to churchmus:
thank you it seems like you read my question carefully. you said
"When speaking His truth through prophets did not properly communicate His love for us, God chose to come to us directly. "
whay do you think prophets did not communicate his love for us.
we are here to be tested , on one hand there i truth on the other hand there are temptations that tell us ignore truth(what you know is right) and get that pleasure.
I think all the cases can be summerises to this. and prophets came to tell us the way to be victorius in this battle , and hey told us of the consequences.
now its our choice , a or b
and God is present mong us because he is everywhere , he doesnt need to come to earth in flesh.

Answer 1

hey, monkeyboy. it's time for your flying lesson. today you'll learn about straight and level flying--we'll just skip the landing and taking off parts. (since you won't be using those)

Answer 2

Yaweh is God and Jesus is his son at least. I'm not sure about why he doesn't now the ten commandments. While God sent his son the idea that he is god in the flesh is perhaps a metaphor to show God's love for the earth that he sent his son down to save us. In this case it wouldn't be breaking the first commandment. However, if the reverence to Jesus is taken above the Creator it would break the first commandment. He was portrayed as a false messiah as the rabbi's of the time were wary of what the people would do for Jesus and he might have brought an insurrection against Rome which could have wiped out the people.Therefore, he was portrayed to the people as one of the false messiahs.Part of religion is belief without seeing but as the people who followed him began by seeing in ways one can take it on the faith though old it may be.As for me I consider lord a title below king which is what Yaweh or God is King. The trinity ideal I think is hard to grasp due to the saying that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one. The best I can try to explain it is that the Trinity would be like parts of a person, the body, mind and soul. Hopefully the answer made sense and I've cleared things up.

Answer 3

Christianity does not believe in 3 gods. Christianity only believes One God.

The Father, Son, & Holy Spirit Are the Same God.

Answer 4

you have a body a mind and a soul, true??? so are you 1, 2, or 3. We were made in God's image perhaps He to has 3 parts, which make up one whole. Just an idea you might want to think about. It is not a good idea for two who both love one to fight (a little with respect or a lot with bombs) because it will make the one not so happy.
I am willing to say I do not fully understand the exact relationship between Jehovah, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, are you??

Answer 5

I'm not sure that I follow exactly what you are saying, but I think that you mean to ask: (1) how can God become a man; and, (2) how can God be three, yet one?

For (1), God can do anything that God wants, including making himself into a human if he wants to. There is no limit to God's power.

For (2), just because we cannot understand how that God could be three yet one does not mean that it is not true. God is something beyond human compression. Since we cannot understand fully what God is, it is foolish for use to say that God cannot be this, or that God must be that. God is whatever God wants to be. No one can argue with God and tell him that her is some other than what he declared himself to be. God is what he said that he is. No one can argue with God and say, no you cannot be a trinity because I do not understand it.

Answer 6

Allah and Yahweh are not the same person.El Allah was the Moon God (hence the crescent moon).Yahweh is the Hebrew for Jehovah"I am that I am ,the self existing one".In the Bible,Genesis ch.I ,God says "Let Us create man..." the Us ,is the trinity of God,(Hebrew "Eloheim" EL,means God ,El-oheim is God plural .That doesn't mean "Gods" but a complicated being way too complex for us to comprehend.The trinity is Father,Son, and Holy Spirit...1x1x1=1 God,not...1+1+1=3 gods.Get the Math?God is three whats and one who,so to speak.
Calling Jesus "Son" is for our benefit ,to help us and our 10% brain power wrap our minds around this.It's an "anthropomorphism"trying to get us to understand.There's lots more to say but .............Peace bro.

Answer 7

Peace to you as well

I'm not too sure what it is your exactly asking here but I'll try my best to answer as truthfully as possible.

Yes, your correct when you say that God surpasses all beauty and splendor in all respects. However, God became man for man's sake in the form of man. This was Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. So, God (the Father) sent His only Son (Jesus) to this earth and worked through Him by means of the Holy Spirit which is the Spirit of God the Father.

The Trinity is not three "God's" it's three persons all in one. Our finite minds cannot fully comprehend this. But Sacred Scripture is clear on it.

Answer 8

Thank you for giving us one of the most intelligent and well thought out questions on this forum. I've been debating whether to tackle this as direct answers to your questions or a generalization to what you are getting at. I hope to do both, so please forgive me if I don't quite hit what you are looking for.

Ultimately I believe that there can be only one source, one creator of creators, one most [fill-in-the-blank]. The God who I believe in is "the." That God is all-knowing, all-powerful, all-present, all-loving, all-forgiving, "all." There can be (and are many) who create, know, love, and are there, but there is only one who is the ultimate of all of these, and that is God.

Because God is all of those, God transcends our limits and our understanding. It would have to be that way, otherwise how could God be the source of all? But since God created all and loves that creation, God respects the bounds of that creation. When speaking His truth through prophets did not properly communicate His love for us, God chose to come to us directly.

Now, we are limited by our understanding of time and space. We are categorical beings and just cannot fully comprend the transcendent. This is why, I believe, so many find it offensive to try to portray God in art - how can we possibly do God justic in this way? God knows and understands that, so God speaks Himself into the world into a form we can comprehend - a human man. God is still God, but respecting the boundaries of His creation - including time and space - God took the form of one of us. As Jesus God is limitted by human understanding and of course he prayed to God because he could not understand that he is both/and. If he could, he would no longer be a human like the rest of us.

I guess you could say that God has always been the Trinity; He just chose when in our stream of time to express this so that we could experience it.

Answer 9

Jesus is Gos in human form. He came down to earth to suffer on the cross for your sin. Why? because he love you so much that he wants you to be in heaven with him. But because you are not perfect, it is belief in Jesus and that He is God and that He died on the cross for you. It is by His grace not that you deserve this but by his love for you. The trinity is three persons in One. Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Just as a Man can be a Father to his children, a brother, and a son to his parents. He is the same person. His identity has not changed.

Answer 10

You never really asked your two questions.

But Jesus was not created by God. His is God. He is an infinite being without cause.

The Christian God is a Trinity - one God, three aspects.

The easiest way to picture this is that a single cube has six sides. Is any side more cube-like than the others? No. Can the cube exist without any of the sides? No. Does the fact that a single cube has six sides call into question the characteristics of the cube? No.

Answer 11

Its too bad you don't have the knowledge of God in your heart. You are following a religion and set theologies that your religion has prescribed.

There is only one God and I know you know this. All that you wrote is mute for it lacks wisdom.

We are created in the likeness of God. God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We are body, soul, and spirit.

Get into the Word of God and come home with me when God's Word comes to collect us.><>