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can i get in with a shoplifting misdemor on my record??

2006-10-13 07:00:13 · 14 answers · asked by taylor p 2 in Politics & Government Military

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Guess So. HEY OTHER ANSWERERS..THINGS HAVE CHANGED !!!
February 02, 2006
Out of Jail, Into the Army
From Salon.com:

Facing an enlistment crisis, the Army is granting "waivers" to an increasingly high percentage of recruits with criminal records -- and trying to hide it...

Through the use of a little-known, but increasingly important, escape clause known as a waiver. Waivers, which are generally approved at the Pentagon, allow recruiters to sign up men and women who otherwise would be ineligible for service because of legal convictions, medical problems or other reasons preventing them from meeting minimum standards...

According to statistics provided to Salon by the office of the assistant secretary of defense for public affairs, the Army said that 17 percent (21,880 new soldiers) of its 2005 recruits were admitted under waivers. Put another way, more soldiers than are in an entire infantry division entered the Army in 2005 without meeting normal standards. This use of waivers represents a 42 percent increase since the pre-Iraq year of 2000...

[E]xamples from the Air Guard files suggest a wider problem:

After his parents filed a domestic-abuse complaint against him in 2000, a recruit in Rhode Island was sentenced to one year of probation, ordered to have "no contact" with his parents, and required to undergo counseling and to pay court costs. Air National Guard rules say domestic violence convictions make recruits ineligible -- no exceptions granted. But the records show that the recruiter in this case brought the issue to an Air Guard staff judge advocate, who reviewed the file and determined that the offense did not "meet the domestic violence crime criteria." As a result of this waiver, the recruit was admitted to his state's Air Guard on May 3, 2005.


A recruit with DWI violations in June 2001 and April 2002 received a waiver to enter the Iowa Air National Guard on July 15, 2005. The waiver request from the Iowa Guard to the Pentagon declares that the recruit "realizes that he made the wrong decision to drink and drive."


Another recruit for the Rhode Island Air National Guard finished five years of probation in 2002 for breaking and entering, apparently into his girlfriend's house. A waiver got him into the Guard in June 2005.


A recruit convicted in January 2004 for possession of marijuana, drug paraphernalia and stolen license-plate tags got into the Hawaii Air National Guard with a waiver little more than a year later, on March 3, 2005.

Taken together, the troubling statistics from the Army and anecdotal information derived from the files of the Air National Guard raise a warning flag about the extent to which the military is lowering its standards to fight the war in Iraq. The president may be correct in his recent press conference boast that "we're transforming the military." But the abuse of recruiting waivers prompts the question: In what direction is this military transformation headed?

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2006-10-13 07:41:42 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

(1) The Army does not let "anyone" in. A DUI conviction, for instance, is an automatic disqualifier. Anyone with a major felony on the books (drug trafficking, rape, homicide) is not allowed in. Anyone who sits at MEPS long enough can see the occasional outstanding warrant collected on some idiot who has fingerprints taken and sent to the IAFIS right before checking out of final outprocessing.

(2) Interservice rivalry is flat out needless bullshit that reflects more on the lack of character from the idiot making the baseless charges than the nobility of the service that idiot is trying to glorify. Last I checked, there was just one set of national colors, not one each for the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force.

(3) And yes, you can get in with a shoplifting misdemeanor on your record, but you must have proof that you have fulfilled all obligations (monetary fines, community service) placed on you by the court for your conviction first, and then likely you will need a waiver. Talk to a recruiter (preferably, a recruiting station commander) for exact details, but make sure you have all the documentation in hand before you go.

2006-10-13 07:13:33 · answer #2 · answered by Nat 5 · 5 1

Ah the 2 guys above...

One a citizen secure from domestic harm that can express his vacuous opinions BECAUSE that right has been protected by the lives of those he so cheaply demeans.....

The other who seeks to place all military with the label of brigand and criminal. Is he the same man who will support illegal passage across our borders. Which action is more detrimental to our safety and well-being....

2006-10-13 07:44:32 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes you can. However-it will go in your record as your history and if you do it again or any misdemeanors (which I have a feeling you won't) you can lose your base privileges such as recreational to even some medical.

2006-10-13 13:34:09 · answer #4 · answered by Beach Blonde 3 · 0 0

Do you like the new army slogan, "Army Strong" instead of an Army of One?

2006-10-13 07:08:23 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

You'd have a better chance if you had a couple of violent (but not domestic) felonies under your belt, but if you bluff well, you might be able to convince them you're as tough as GW Bush.

All they're looking for is a warm body to throw into the blenders in Afghanistan and Iraq. If you survive that, they'll bring you back here about 6 years after your hitch is up, and get you to use your training against US Citizens.

2006-10-13 07:20:53 · answer #6 · answered by a360ndycooper 2 · 0 4

Yes, the only thing that will keep you out is drugs and domestic violence.

2006-10-13 07:19:14 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

yes, that shouldnt be a problem as long as it is resolved meaning you paid any fines or whatever the punishment was.

2006-10-13 08:04:53 · answer #8 · answered by krystal 6 · 0 0

Probably. You need a high school diploma or a GED.

2006-10-13 07:02:00 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

yes

2006-10-13 07:04:33 · answer #10 · answered by vbplr_12 3 · 0 0

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