Is Agnostocism really "uncertainty" or is in fact, "certain" that God is unknowable.?

Question

I would content that it is "certainty" and part of theistic brainwashing is that they apply the "uncertainty" ideology to what is Agnostocism.

Certainly my definition of "certainty" maybe only applies to strong agnostocism and not weak agnostocism, but we can make fun of weak agnostocism in about 15 seconds so we can attach the label uncertain to that group of freaks all we want I'm cool with that.

Answer 1

Well, as I understand it, the definition of agnostic is "one who contends that they can never possess or attain direct knowledge regarding whether a deity exists, and that the knowledge is unknown and inherently unknowable". There seems to be a level of certainty in that. Of course there are people who say "I personally don't know, but maybe someone else does" which denotes the possibility that knowledge of deities IS possible but not possessed by the particular people making the statement. Then there are those who say "I don't know if there is a god because I don't know what you mean when you say 'god', so it's pointless to even question whether some unknown exists". Those are ignostics. I suppose if I had to get reeeeeeeally specific, I'd call myself an ignostic atheist.

Answer 2

My agnosticism is certainty. I am certain that God can be known by direct experience but I am uncertain as to whether WHAT God IS can ever be known. Maybe it can. I am working on it.

I am comfortable with certainty and uncertainty and all the fluctuations between those two states.

Answer 3

As I see it, to be Agnostic, you must first be an Atheist. Since within the Agonstic idea, it is stated that the existence of God is unprovable. Basically, as I percieve it, Agnostics are Atheists, that don't reject that someday there could be some kind of empirical proof showing the existence of a Diety, and until that day, they don't believe.

Answer 4

"Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear". --Thomas Jefferson

"I don't know & you don't either." "Militant Agnostic" bumper sticker from CarryaBigSticker.com.

Agnostism deals with the uncertainty of God, yet many actually believe it does not exist with certainty.
I'm leaning towards Gnostic myself; I'm not religious, but believe in the spirtuality of life and that there is a God, a force, where Agnostic deals not with faith, but with facts, and therefore does not (yet) believe it.

I think it's sad to not believe, and yet maybe I'm the one who is crazy to believe...just look at the second quotation I gave you and really think about it.

Answer 5

I think agnosticism includes the "we are certain god is unknowable" right along with the "we really don't know" people. I guess if they want to, the agnostics can form denominations or sects.

Answer 6

Interesting question. I would say, I'm certain that God is unknowable because of my extreme uncertainty.

Answer 7

I am not certain of anything, except the sun will set later today. I think that there may be a God. In my opinion, there is a high probability that there is a supreme being.

Answer 8

I'd say it really is uncertainty. Sure, you're certain that you're uncertain, but that doesn't change anything.
"Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd." -Voltaire

Answer 9

I'm certain that if god is real and as easy to piss-off as he was in the bible, he would have smitten me and many of my YA friends for multiple counts of haenous blasphemy. The fact that he hasn't is proof to me that he either doesn't exist, or doesn't care what we do on earth. So, win-win for us, as far as I'm concerned.

Answer 10

Agnosticism is the idea that deity can neither be proven or unproven; knowledge of the existence or nonexistence of deity is unattainable.

It is certain in that.