Isn't it just amazing how when you request proof of a belief, that the Bible thumpers will pull out verse after verse supporting their beliefs, yet when you point out a passage in the same book that clearly states something that can be easily taken as offensive, rude, socially unacceptable, or even wrong in today's society, they they will just "duck and cover" over the whole thing?
"The Bible is the Word of God." "Wait, that does not appy to us." "You are taking that out of context, something that I, as a believer can do, but you, as an unbeliever cannot."
I am not an atheist, neither am I Christian, Muslim, or Jew. I do not need to be saved, and I can think for myself. Why cannot other people think for themselves and learn from history. This, in my opinion, is one of the Great, Unanswered Questions of the Universe.
2006-10-13 02:56:47
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answered by wizard8100@sbcglobal.net 5
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This verse is from Deuteronomy 14. And, like most things it is taken out of context. This is from a sermon regarding going into the new land and what must be done. The entire sermon starts even before Chapter 14. The land was given to the Christians by God. The people that had occupied the lands worshipped idols and gave sacrifices to those idols. The land was to be cleansed. Also, this has been paraphrased and interpreted several times over. Go the the King James version.
If you want to truly understand and be able to argue about the Christian religion, you should come totally prepared and knowledgable. Read the entire Bible, don't just go looking for scripture relating to violence. The New Testament is a testament of peace and love and understanding. A Testament of banishing that which is not of God from our own lives. It is a preparation for the second coming.
Christianity is also of tolerance and of turning the other cheek. I find it a bit confusing that you say you are of No religion. That in itself is your religion, your belief system. We all have a belief system. Be comfortable in yours and stop trying to disprove mine.
2006-10-13 03:10:36
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answered by Anonymous
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I find your question Ironic, I agree there are some silly things in the old testament that represent violence, Christ changed all that in the new testament the Muslims have not, so I do not see Christians going out on a killing spree just because they don't believe in Christianity. Your argument holds no water when you compare Christianity with the Muslim religion. I think you have to examine your own facts carefully and start quoting the new testament and you will see it is very different from the old. Christ gave us a new law Peace love and respect, something the Muslims do not have.
2006-10-13 03:16:30
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answered by Anonymous
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No wonder you believe this, since you misunderstand the fact that the entire world is subject to the New Covenant (although not all of us have entered into it). Jesus FULFILLED the law and what you have quoted is no longer in effect.
But here's something else for you to consider: a careful reading of the Mosaic Law should lead you to conclude that NO regular human being could follow the Law (including what you quoted) without stumbling AND is not qualified to enact ANY of the punishments, also including the one you quoted.
This is the reason why the woman caught in the act of adultry was not stoned; Jesus pointed out that anyone who had sinned was disqualified from stoning her. Why? Because the Law stands as ONE and cannot be broken apart. Anyone who breaks even ONE law, breaks them ALL (Deut. 27:26 and James 2:10). And anyone who is a transgressor of the law and accuses someone of also transgressing is a "false witness;" according to Deut. 19:19, he or she deserves the punishment that was to be inflicted on the accused. Again, this is the reason why the accusers walked away from the woman instead of stoning her: they knew they had also transgressed the Law and were therefore disqualified from enacting the punishment.
Also, God commanded the Jews to love their neighbor and the foreigner. Think for a moment: is this killing an act of love? I don't think so. So is it lawful for the people to perform? NO.
Who alone is qualified? Deut. 32:35a tells us:
"Vengeance is Mine, and recompense." God ALONE is capable of judging sin.
This is a complex subject that requires much more consideration than you have given.
I wish you peace.
2006-10-13 03:10:30
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answered by Suzanne: YPA 7
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You used Deut 13:13-18 as your Biblical resource, actually you missed one verse, 12, which is a very important verse, Deuteronomy is a recap of the Law that was given at Mount Sinai, 40 years earlier. in this passage it starts with "If", which means if this happens, then do the following. This passage tells the Israelites that if some in " your cities" try to convince them serve other gods, rather than the One and Only True God, then the Isrealites were to make sure that is was true and if it was then they were to destroy the city (their own city not some one else's). It was God's punishment to the Isrealites for not following His Law.
2006-10-13 03:48:37
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answered by Bobby 2
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Christian monotheism is the future of the Christian Church which is called the New Jerusalem in Revelation:
"This only One and very Self is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent. This also every Christian acknowledges from his doctrine and every gentile from his religion. In consequence, wherever he is, a man thinks that God is there and that he prays to God at hand; thinking and praying so, men cannot but think that God is everywhere, that is, omnipresent [in all places at all times]; likewise omniscient [all knowing] and omnipotent [all powerful]. Everyone praying to God, therefore, implores Him from the heart to lead him because He can lead him; thus he acknowledges the divine omnipresence, omniscience and omnipotence, doing so in turning his face to the Lord; thereupon the truth flows in from the Lord" (Divine Providence n. 157).
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit is like the soul, the body and the works in a single person.
2006-10-13 02:52:23
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answered by Anonymous
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Ofcourse muslims can, if you look at some of the most famous scholars of Islam who do Dawah mostly with non muslims qoute Bible and other religious books. How else can we do Dawah and correct them? I often use qoutes from the Bible when talking to Christians. Ahmed Deedat, Zakir Naik, Yusuf Estes all have done the same.
2016-05-21 22:42:51
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answered by ? 4
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God has a reason for all things. If you're going to quote it, give the background of what was taking place at that time as well. Anyone can pick any one or two verses to try and justify something. Slave owners used the bible to justify slavery. I'm trying to get your point. Do you accept Jesus as your personal Savior or not? If not, today is not too late.
2006-10-13 02:53:36
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answered by Gail R 4
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In the last days, we live under grace. Instead of getting too deep in controversy, just for the sake of argument. You should peep the gospels, then study the letters of paul. Grace & Peace.
2006-10-13 02:50:35
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answered by LENZ 3
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stated to the jews about jews that were living in disobedience to god...jewish people went through periods of rebellion for over 400 years until god allowed the temple to be destroyed in the time ezekial. 400 years is a long time to be patient.
2006-10-13 02:51:32
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answered by Robert K 5
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