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These are all properties of science that can not be seen. There have been miraculous healings and unexplain rescues are these not enough proof? All are result of an unseen, intangeble power. All we see or meadure are the results of it.

2006-10-12 18:03:52 · 15 answers · asked by micheal777 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Duck I am sorry but those are the most ridiculous definitions, Use a
Websters. Faith is the belief in the unseen

2006-10-12 18:13:14 · update #1

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BECAUSE THE FOOL HAS SAID IN HIS HEART THERE IS NO GOD.
KEEP THE FAITH.
GOD BLESS

2006-10-12 18:11:40 · answer #1 · answered by funnana 6 · 1 5

How can we see or measure the results of God? I know some theists say "look all around you". I do, and I see wondrous things. But I don't see how saying "God created them" helps in anyway, since "God did it" is just another way of saying "Something we don't understand did it."

Please for the moment separate the concept of "God" from description of the God of Abraham contained in the Hebrew Bible. Humor me, and for the sake of argument, assume that the Hebrew Bible is myth. Now, let's both assume that even though the God of Abraham is myth, let's assume that the universe was actually created by a supreme being. Now, how do we go about determining what that supreme being did? Science tells us that she must have caused a Big Bang, and she must have determined a set of physical laws. The big question is, did she do anything else at all after that? Science so far hasn't been able to find any evidence of her that is not explained more simply than by physical laws.

Now, I am aware that many people claim to feel God's presence. But these feelings are not repeatable, and it is possible that these feelings have different explanations. It is well known that people with very different religious views also have similar feelings, and that these kinds of feelings can be induced with drugs, or with meditation, or other kinds of ways of manipulating our bodies/minds. This means that even though people might be sure they are experiencing God's presence, they might be experiencing something else with a simpler explanation that is consistent with physical laws.

We can measure heat, magnetism, and electricity. We can generate each of these. We can even predict exactly how much of these we will generate if we take certain actions.

But we have no way to conduct any kind of repeatable experiment that will reveal any information about a creator.

2006-10-12 18:17:49 · answer #2 · answered by Jim L 5 · 1 1

Physics isn't a question of belief. Physics is just a human method of describing how things work in the universe.

You can certainly choose whether or not you want to "believe" in electromagnetism, or whatever. But, regardless of your choice, it exists in a very real and concrete way. Do you think that it is magic that makes your computer work? Well, it's probably the same thing to you one way or another. But if you actually wanted to learn how human technology works, you could, because there are very real reasons for it.

Heat can be seen. You can buy cameras for doing this.
You can feel and see magnetism. Ever play with some magnets? It's pretty obvious that there's something going on there.
You can feel and see electricity. Electricity is what makes you get zapped when you scuff your feet on the carpet, or some such thing.

Electromagnetism is what causes light. That's what light is - electric and magnetic fields. You can certainly see light, after all.

Do you really think these concepts in physics are unexplained? They aren't. There are, of course, many mysteries left, but you don't understand enough of physics to grasp what they are.

Miraculous healings and unexplained rescues? Nonsense.
Has a person ever gotten better from a disease/injury/whatever, for unknown reasons?
Sure.
Does that mean god did it?
Absolutely not.

Your ignorance is no indication of the existence of a supernatural power. It is only an indication of one thing: your own ignorance.

Your god seems to be a "god of the gaps". You should probably find a different reason to believe in god, if you intend on continuing to believe. as time goes on, those gaps get smaller and smaller. Your god may very well soon have no place to hide.

If you actually want to understand how the universe around you works, you can. Read some books about it. There are plenty out there.

If you do not try to understand, you have no one to blame for your ignorance but yourself.

And you certainly cannot claim that your lack of understanding constitutes evidence of a supernatural power. That's nonsense on its very face.

2006-10-12 18:05:37 · answer #3 · answered by extton 5 · 5 1

Yes, you can be psychic and believe in God. Many have been taught from early childhood that the prohibition found in the Bible against speaking with the spirit of the dead covers all spirits, not just the spirit of the dead. Like most other beliefs taught at such an early age, we usually don't pause to question it. Some have been advised to say, "Go away, Satan!" to any and all spirits who might attempt to talk with us -- no matter who the spirit may say he is. The Bible states explicitly that God is a Spirit. [John 4:24] Therefore, if we also include Him in this prohibition, we very well may find ourselves calling God by the name of "Satan." If we had been commanded to refuse to talk with any spirit whatsoever, there would have been no reason for the warning cautioning us not to believe every spirit, but only the Spirit who has proved itself as proceeding from God. [1 John 4:1] The entire Bible was written by, and about, people who communicated with a Spirit -- the Spirit of God and the Spirit of the Living. I think all of the Christian sects, no matter how diverse they may be in other areas, agree with one another that God is the Author of the Bible. And they also agree that He used human agents to write it in its material form. These human agents were all psychics.

2016-05-21 22:08:33 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

For the same reasons many people also do not believe in ghosts, ESP, or many other "intangible" things. Science can measure the laws of physics. Experiments can be made and repeated with accurately predicted results. Science has not thus found a way to measure mental or spiritual energy, nor to conduct experiments with repeatable results.

2006-10-12 18:29:32 · answer #5 · answered by angk 6 · 1 0

I can't explain all of physics--but there are people who can. They can explain it in a coherent, rational format and apply it to the way the world works--without throwing in a supernatural being to make it all hang together. Physics works just fine without God.
As for miraculous healings, most are the result of misdiagnosis and some are simply chance. Sometimes people recover from lifethreatening injuries or illness; the vast majority of times, they don't. If God can save people, then he should save them all. It seems a little cruel to save one and not another.

2006-10-12 18:12:26 · answer #6 · answered by Jensenfan 5 · 1 0

Heat, magnetism, electricity, and any other type of science can be tested and Proven.. God cannot be tested and proven, no matter how many "mystical things" happen. A select few "healings" and "rescues" do not prove "God". If you say that's proof enough for your God... Then it is also proof of other deity beliefs.

2006-10-12 18:11:42 · answer #7 · answered by Anuolf 3 · 3 0

These are descriptions of repeatable observed behaviors, nothing more. What are the repeatable observed behaviors you would attribute to gods?

For every miraculous healing story you care to submit, I can counter with a documented story about UFOs, fairies, bigfoot, etc. Yet neither your mircale stories, nor the stories I would counter with are repeatable.

Repeatability is the cornerstone of science.

2006-10-12 18:13:14 · answer #8 · answered by lenny 7 · 1 0

The foolishness that serves you as a substitute for knowledge and reason is a logical fallacy (a flaw in thinking) known as the "Argument From Incredulity"... which is a sub-category of the "Argumentum ad Ignorantiam" (Argument From Ignorance). It goes something like this: "I can't conceive of how this might have come to be; therefore, God did it."

That does not point to a limitation of nature... rather, it exemplifies a limitation of knowledge and/or intellect. Also, it is intellectually dishonest, since it does not (as scientists do) ACKNOWLEDGE the limitation of knowledge and/or intellect... it merely invokes the fanciful idea of a supernatural creator-entity to manifest the ILLUSION that your ideations map to reality.

'Faith' (wishful, magical thinking) is a substitute for evidence.

'Belief' (the internalized 'certainty' that you are privy to the 'truth' pertaining to some fundamental aspect of existence and/or reality) is a substitute for knowledge.

faith + belief = self-delusion and willful ignorance

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"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance... it is the illusion of knowledge." ~ Daniel Boorstin
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"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion." ~ Robert M. Pirsig

http://www.godisimaginary.com/video7.htm

2006-10-12 18:09:30 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

This is why people like you believe in a god. Your "proof" is so infantile and bizarre. Where do you people come up with this insane "logic"? You deserve to believe in God.

2006-10-12 18:13:40 · answer #10 · answered by dawnsdad 6 · 3 0

Because someones faith is a personal thing. It cannot be tested and thus, cannot be proven.

2006-10-12 18:15:59 · answer #11 · answered by i luv teh fishes 7 · 0 0

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