Many who ask questions or answer them in a way that is so departed from actual scripture meaning. Is it even possible for the unsaved (for lack of a better term) to have insight into scripture. I'm thinking no but do you know of examples.
2006-10-12 17:53:45 · 16 answers · asked by icheeknows 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
of course they can have "insight" for the scripture.
just because you're saved dosn't mean that you have a whole new mind.
but who's to say that Jesus or the other Heavenly Spirit Helpers won't whisper some clues of knowlege in your ear (for the "saved")
and (acording the scripture *giggle*) if you're saved. you have a better channal up wards.
but even if you're saved you can clogg it.
by "straying" and all that.
sooo it matters really.
if you're saved and have a clogged channel then.... no you even wouldn't have better insight then the "nonsaved"
or if you "not saved" but still are "open" to things. then you might even have more insight then the saved "clogged" ones
2006-10-12 18:03:46 · answer #1 · answered by Sheshh 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have yet to see a Christian give any kind of insight to scripture during discussion that one couldn't find on their own... even being "unsaved". Many of the "revelations" expressed are in other religions as well and expressed in those religions in much the same way. Trinity beliefs were common even before Christianity. The idea of a Rapture and the reasoning for it was also around, though it wasn't called Rapture (which simply means a peak in emotion). Those things called "Mysteries of God" were ripe in what is now called the Mystery Religions... Pagan religions.
And interesting that you use the word "uninitiated". That is how those very same Mystery Religions views those outside of their religion. They weren't initiated into the Mysteries.
2006-10-13 11:42:23 · answer #2 · answered by Kithy 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It's quite possible for a non-believer to completely understand the meaning of a passage. It's not unheard of for non christian professors of religion to give a much better exegesis than one often hears from the pulpit. What eludes the non believer is not the meaning but the significance of any given passage. It's not that they can't get the idea it's that the idea itself seems like foolishness to them. However a lot of times when a non believer gives a verse in a meaning nowhere near the intent of the passage it's either due to them having heard about that verse alone removed from the context so that it sounds terrible on it's face value or out of a willful intent to cause animosity or the hope of shaking your convictions. Look at all the atheists who get upon this site, Christians aren't the only ones trying to push their beliefs and convert others.
2006-10-13 01:12:32 · answer #3 · answered by westfallwatergardens 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The only thing Christians gain is the view point of the Church. Rather than seeking the truth from God, these poor people receieve their answers from the Church. So those "insights" really aren't.
One common result among the "unsaved" is the ability to see non-logical situations and contradictions in the New Testement.
2006-10-13 03:13:43 · answer #4 · answered by Reuben Shlomo 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
icheeknows,
That's one of the daily miracles that I see as evidence of God's Spirit in us; that they cannot understand it. They don't have the Spirit to guide them. That's the Spirit of Knowledge. So no.
There was an apostate that I frequently wrote to on another board. He was obessed with this verse:
Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
He thought that it meant that Jesus couldn't be God. Because he thought that it was saying that God is not a man. lol
2006-10-13 01:01:01 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
You have written a strange question.
Anyone can read the Scriptures and gain knowledge and wisdom of the Word. Consider Satan for a moment. He knows every word written and uses them to deceive the children of God.
There is hidden manna in the Word that is given by God to His children that have accepted His son.
Faith comes by hearing the Word of God.><>
2006-10-13 01:01:03 · answer #6 · answered by CEM 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
You are correct icheeknows, I have witnessed this as well from many Atheists on this site. They will quote it out of context and say, "See it does say so and so...", when in actuality it says no such thing. I have noticed this from some of my fellow Jews as well. I could go on and on all night about that.
Our own misperceptions often overshadow the truth of what is being presented to us.
2006-10-13 00:58:00 · answer #7 · answered by Adyghe Ha'Yapheh-Phiyah 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Sure they do.
Once folks learn that weird stuff is okay,
they let all their weirdness come to the surface
and they see visions, hear voices, get new
messages from outer space, and visits from
other planets. You can never tell how far out
some of the weird stuff will go. A guy down in
Ghanna had all of his flock drink poison one day
and hundreds died because of his weird sh***t.
2006-10-13 01:00:07 · answer #8 · answered by zahbudar 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No. The Bible was gibberish to me, until after I became a Christian. So simply "versing" someone to death, does nothing but annoy them. If someone asks for scripture, that is different.
2006-10-13 00:57:45 · answer #9 · answered by ~Angel~ 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Perhaps you can give me some insight on this one.
Luke 18:22. Which when Jesus had heard, he said to him: Yet one thing is wanting to thee. Sell all whatever thou hast and give to the poor: and thou shalt have treasure in heaven. And come, follow me.
Edit : Yard sale tomorrow at your place? To which charity are you donating ALL your stuff?
2006-10-13 00:57:18 · answer #10 · answered by Kathryn™ 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋