Question For All Believers??? (see details)?

Question

I mean no disrespect with this question. You all know I'm atheist, and I've explained many times why I don't believe.

Will you please take a few moments to tell me why you do believe?

You know that creationism make no sense to me. Why does evolution make no sense to you?

I really don't understand the level of faith required to believe in something that you cannot see, feel, touch, smell or have no evidence of.

Your own words if you will please.

Thank you.

Whoever gave me the thumbs down....answer the question.

Kimo....can you elaborate for me please?

Thanks to all for some very insightful answers.

Thanks Icheeknows....I missed you, too.

Answer 1

Dear Spooky
I am Christian. I came from a very bad family. They were, at best toxic. We didn't attend church, except bible school and that was only so mom could get rid of us.
I did bad things as a teen, I was a terrible person.
My belief comes from when I was down to my very worst, I called out "Nobody cares, I wish I were dead!", and God picked my butt off the ground. He sent loving Christian women to help me. They nurished me and loved me even when I said they were being stupid and that God was a joke.

I believe in God because God believes in me enough to send people to me, and because they had faith enough to stay, even when I was abusive.

Answer 2

was missin you I thought maybe you'd gone off got saved and were just too high to come down here to computer land.

Let me assume for a moment that you had a really had a great time in your past. One that when you think of it today makes you feel a way you like to feel.

Now imagen you could call up that feeling whenever you wanted or needed to and while still here on this hard core earth dealing with the lying and chaeting humans and braving nasty weather, you could feel this sort of warmth and promise of a future filled with that memory. Now if you tell this to any christian (true) they are gonna say that sounds like a salvation experience. Get to know that person and you are going to want that which they have, cuz you will see it. Now with that memeory of what that person had and a particularly hard and lonesome time comes in your door and it is going to last a while and you have been told that what that person had or has is available to you right there in the midst of your current hell, what are you going to do. Is your choice as to what to do determined by pride?? If one can exit a not too nice place by opening a door and walking through it and they do not is that logical. Lets say there is no down side you can walk through the door and never tell a soul if you in any way do not think what is behind the door is not genuine, and come back and continue alone doing it your way as it would appear some have. Is it logical to refuse a no lose bet.

evolution, as I see it is a totally impossible. We have the severe weather changes. We have the lack of substantial evidence. We have the genetic evidence that we all decended from a single human, and that we can even trace back the probable location of those first humans. To me it is like saying that you take your computer apart and put those parts in a box and you shake it and open it to see if it all came back together. You can rinse and repeat as often as you like for an eternity and it will never ever become a computer. All the laws and the math just could never come together to create even simple life much less a human. Then you assume that if a scientist knowing just a little more than we do today might one day in a controlled environment actually creat a single cell, then to me what you have is some pretty good indicator that the human race was created in that manner which is what we call intelligent design. I do not know exactly how all this came to be but when I see it all, and the number of species that go extinct, and how it all fits so intricately together I just believe there is no way this happened here on earth as the result of random mutation or any other known or suspected form of creat it yourself logic. Remember there have been ice ages, periods of such severe cold that there is not much in the way of life that could have survived and along with that there was a time when the crust slipped so those areas immune to the cold periods also would have suffered from severe and quick climate changes. Evolution as it is currently taught is an impossibility here on planet earth. Add to that, that one of mans most persistant personality traits is the need to be in control and the mental environment here almost dictates that some theory like evolution becomes an almost certain development by the human brain.
welcome back i enjoy your brain teasers.

Answer 3

Well, first you have to accept that not all Believers believe the same thing. It doesn't have to be all or none. I can believe in God, and Christ, but I don't have to believe that the Bible spelled out everything exactly word for word the way it happened. Clearly, the 7 day theory of creationism make absolutely no sense. But can I believe God started something, created the first whatever and then sat back and watched it all grow into its current state. I think so. Or what if God evolved out of the nothingness along with everything else and at some point, the greatness of the universe took on a sentient form that we now call God? The possibilities are endless. Yes I believe in God, I follow Christianity because I like the message of brotherly love, but I certainly don't think it all happened exactly the way it is written in the Bible. Fundamentalist thinking is not just wrong, its dangerous. Oh, and by the way, God does not require that you believe in him for him to believe in you. I think he is a bit less fragile than that. So many blessings to you Spooky as you find your way in this world, Who knows, maybe one day you will experience something that will cause you to rethink your position.

Answer 4

I believe in God because that's what I was taught as a child by my parents and grandparents. I had a loving family who believed in Jesus Christ and I don't think that they are idiots or easily fooled, they loved me and showed me love, and I respect them. I could have rejected God and what I was taught, but I had my own quest to know who and what God is, and I believe that what I was taught is true. I can't explain everything about God, and that's where faith comes in. I have faith that God is real and what he says is true. Also, I don't equate any religion as God. Religions exist because of God / Jesus Christ and not the other way around. I don't have to necessarily see God to know he exists. I see it in the beauty of the world he created. I don't have to touch, smell, or have someone provide evidence either. I feel God in my heart. I don't need any other Earthly sensation in order for me to believe.

He hasn't failed me yet, and when I've been in a bad place, or sad, or lonely, knowing that He is there, has helped me. So why should I doubt Him? Believing in something good is better than believing in nothing at all. That would almost seem like an empty existence if it was just me and the science of it all.

Finally, evolution makes no sense to me, because although God created all creatures including apes, I believe God would be able to create man as a finished being, he wouldn't need to do it in evolutionary stages.

Another reason I don't believe that man evolved from apes is, If that was true, why did evolution stop? Why aren't there apes in the world today that are in the process of becoming human?

I feel I evolve as a person with every day that passes and the experiences I have within them.

How's that?

Answer 5

I respect you question and hope that people will give you real answers.

My problem with evolution stems from several factors. My main problem is that I can not believe that the Universe came from nothing. Science seems to start the Big Bang with 2 hydrogen atoms, but where did they come from? How could something as complex as DNA have come from a "happy accident"?

I don't have enough faith to be an Atheist.

We could talk for years about facts for both sides, but I still find real transition between species. The missing link is missing. Neanderthal, Cro magnon and Homo sapiens are all too different. Homo sapiens just appeared from out of no where and the same with other species as well.

I guess in the long run we are looking at the same facts but from a different perspective.

Answer 6

it's like this spooky...

It's difficult talking to someone u can't see.. it's even more difficult talking to someone u've never met and yet, u go on asking questions from all of us in this site.. may i ask u? do u believe that i am an ordinary human just like you and just like any other who are aswering ur question? what is ur proof? and are u sure? maybe u will say, "yes i am sure cause u r answered" u know, some of the things in this world are "?" question mark.. there are a lot of questions to ask and will be left unanswered and that's the truth. am i right? otherwise, u will not ask this question.. how did universe exist? how did the beginning start? there's always a question how? why? when? where?.... evolution can't explain that.. it started from nothing and "nothing" started how, when and where?.. in every book, there's an author.. in every poem, there's a poet.. in every song, there's a composer... and my question is, who created universe other than GOD? if u can explain that to me, let's see..

I can't see, touch and smell the LORD literally but i am 100% sure that i can feel HIM.. Science can never
explain "MIRACLES". and those miracles are my evidences that there's GOD..

I will not insist what i believe and i will respect what u believe.. It's just a matter of choice.. I chose this and u chose that...

Answer 7

I guess I will start why evolution makes no sense. When you look at the planets and the Sun and know that they are placed in the right place, you know something greater had to do that. If the Earth was any closer to the Sun then we would burn up, and if we was futher away we would freeze. To look at the human body and the brain and see how we are made up you know something greater had to create us. Ok lets say there wasn't a God. So in the beginning before anything evolved and all there was was darkness, how did something evolve out of nothing. There was nothing there to start anything. I am sure you believe George Washington was our first president cause of books you read. Well even though you have never met the man you believe what the men wrote in books to be true, and there for you have faith that George Washington was our first president. The same faith it takes for you to believe in George Washington is the same faith I have that believes in God. I see God's handy work and I see how He works in the lives of people and I have read about Him in the Bible and that gives me more faith.

Answer 8

I didn't always believe. I used to hate people like me. Always smiling and being so nice and polite. They made me sick.

But, after watching my son have a siezure, I was suddenly unable to handle a situation on my own. I had lived my whole life depending on nobody but me. And now I had a situation that I could do nothing about. Those annoying people had always tried to tell me about God, so I asked for help. It was pretty lame at first, then I just fell apart. Shortly after that, people started to come into our lives. It was like they had found us or we found them. We recieved the help we needed. My son has not had another siezure since. We have learned a lot about autism and about life. I know, it could all be a coincidence that things started to fall into place and these people could have found us just by chance. But, I really don't think so. In fact when I look back at how I lived my earlier years, I think God had been there all along just waiting for me to start looking for him. Sorry if I'm annoying at times. I just hope that if someday you do experience extreme heartache, you will consider turning it over to God.
As for evolution, I think we all have the same evidence. We can all look at the same stars, same earth,same life forms, and same fossils. It seems to me that ALL of us are bias in some way. Some refuse to consider the possibility of a creator, and others refuse to consider the possibility of no creator. There is evidence supporting both theories. It comes down to which evidence do we give greater weight to. And Why. When I became a Christian, I had to re-examine what I believed in. I could no longer accept things "just because". As I considered evolution, it did not seem logical that so many things would happen by chance with such a precise outcome. I think we both have faith. We just place it in different things.

PS: my wife says Duchovny is hers.

Answer 9

As for Creationism, I assume you mean a literal translation of Genesis Chapter 1. I don't really believe in that either, but for me, God is God, and if He wanted to do it that way, who am I to argue? Personally, I have no problem with the Big Bang, time, space, evolution, etc. all being part of God's plan, His creation.

As for faith, I would only ask that you think about this. If you were fortunate enough to have a mother that loved you, how could you prove to someone that she did? How could you prove it to yourself? It leaves no objective evidence that could not be refuted or denied. Nothing to see, feel, touch, or smell. Yet you know it's real and no one can take that away from you or convince you otherwise. It is personal and subjective, but very, very real. Faith is like that, it is not without subjective evidence, and is very real. I believe and respect any Atheist who tells me they do not see that evidence. I don't understand anyone trying to convince me that I don't.

Answer 10

I am a pagan polytheist so I have multiple gods. First I'd like to say that my religion has no creation myths and therefore I do believe in evolution.

My religious beliefs do not conflict with the natural science of things. Being somewhat of a "prove it!" person myself, I actually was an atheist for a short time many years ago. The reason I went back to believing in deities of any type is I've had some very tangible, physical personal experiences that I can't scientifically explain which means there either is something else out there - or science hasn't gotten to it yet. I'm inclined to believe there's something else out there. Some of my experiences have included symbols appearing on walls. Things that were missing for years suddenly showing back up (in places they weren't the night before) after I prayed to a deity the night before to help me find something that was missing. Physical manifestations of entities right in front of me. Precognative dreams. Knowing specific things about total strangers and freaking them out. The list goes on. And it freaks me out sometimes (I'm not easily offended or freaked out). When I pray to my deities - I always get an answer.

Unfortunately - telling you about these experiences would take a long time and you'd still have to take my word for it. Not only that, but you'd have to take my word for it that I am psychologically sound because I know how crazy this kind of stuff sounds to atheists. So I'm not sure someone who believes in deity can really help someone else understand their personal experience. If you haven't had your own experiences you aren't likely to believe no matter what anyone else tells you. :) I hope this helps.

Answer 11

I believe in Jesus Christ. I saw him everyday in my mother. I knew something had to make her very special. She raised 6 children while being abused every day by a drunken husband. I never heard or saw her be mean to anyone. I literally saw her turn the other cheek many times. I would hear her praying and praising Jesus for the Joy and Love she felt. I saw her stay on her knees or face praying for young people who were sick and hurting, and yes sometimes dying. And I saw them get better. I never heard her judge anyone, I just saw her loving everyone, and Even praying for the boy who murdered her son. Jesus said you would know them by their fruits, and my mothers tree was over flowing with beautiful fruit.
Evolution makes no sense, because It is still not going on. No one is changing (or evolving) from anything.
But this is still faith, like the wind, you can't see it, but you can feel it, and see where it has blown.