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Matthew 14:23, 19:13, 26:39, 27:46, 26:42-44; Mark 1:35, 6:46, 14:35-36; Luke 3:21, 5:16, 6:12, 9:18, 9:28, 11:1-4, 22:41; John 14:16, 17:1, 17:9, 17:11, 17:15.

Consider also these passages:

Matthew 26:39
Jesus and God have different wills.

Matthew 19:16-17, Mark 10:17-18 and Luke 18:18-19.
Jesus distinguishes between himself and God.

Luke 7:16, 13:33, 24:19; John 4:19
Jesus seems to regarded by his disciples and other contemporaries as a prophet.

If Jesus prayed, had a different will from God and was regarded by his earthly followers merely as a prophet, why do most Christian churches teach that Jesus is God and/or part of God?

2006-10-12 08:34:57 · 17 answers · asked by Mister Big 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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If you would read the passages you cite more completely you''d have your answer.

2006-10-12 08:41:34 · answer #1 · answered by Robert b 4 · 0 0

Jesus when he was incarnate was still God, but he subjected himself to the first person of the trinity without losing his deity in the form of a man. Hebrews 2:1-9 goes to great lengths to reiterate that Jesus is greater than the angels, but Phillipians 2 says that he "emptied" himself of this position to take on the flesh of humans who were made "lower than ther angels" according to Psalms 8, which is speaking to both man and the son of man who is Jesus.

Jesus being subjected to the Father to the father as a subject ought to do. Jesus did nothing without the Father's permission or allowance, and prayer was how he communicated with the Father. (John 5:19) Does this neccessarilty deny his diety? Not reall, but it certainly expresses his humanity.

It churches were to not preach the diety of Christ, then they are denying the claims of Christ who said he was God, the claims of the apostles who say he was God, and the neccessity of his divinity in the role it plays in salvation.

Remember the crime the Pharisees charged Jesus with was blasphemy, when they asked if he was the Son of God and he replied affirmatively (John 19:7). If Jesus would have said otherwise, then he would have been lying and would have been another man, and the crucifixion would then be meaningless. However, he wasn't lying, although they were convinced that he was. Jesus was innocent when they crucified him.

2006-10-12 15:55:53 · answer #2 · answered by The1andOnlyMule 2 · 1 0

>Jesus and God have different wills.

And yet His will was to do the Will of the Father Who sent Him.

>Jesus distinguishes between himself and God.

further establishing that though there is ONE God, yet He has revealed Himself as three "persons": Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

>Jesus seems to regarded by his disciples
>and other contemporaries as a prophet.

Many of the people of that day had a wide variety of Who He was, etc. The disciples seemed to have glimpses of His true nature [Who do YOU say that I am? The Christ, ....] But after His Resurrection, they no longer had any doubts. "My Lord and My God!"

>why do most Christian churches teach that Jesus is God

Because Jesus believed it and taught it. And that was the consensus of the early Church. And Jesus Himself said "I and the Father are one".

2006-10-12 16:09:55 · answer #3 · answered by kent chatham 5 · 1 0

Jesus is God (John 1), just God the Son not God the Father. As a son is delegating his will to his father. (Eph. 6:1). Remember Jesus said he and the Father are one.

2006-10-12 16:27:28 · answer #4 · answered by jefferyspringer57@sbcglobal.net 7 · 1 0

I am Christain, but our religion teaches us there is a God-head. They are 3 different beings. Jesus is praying to his/our Father in Heaven.

2006-10-12 15:41:42 · answer #5 · answered by pogipogi99 1 · 1 0

He was praying to Yahweh (sometimes called Jehovah), the God of Thunder and the true God of the Hebrews. And being descended from the House of David Yeshua Ben Josiah prayed about 20 times a day.

2006-10-12 15:38:28 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

He taught us how to pray by example. If you read Luke 11:1, it will explain it to you.

2006-10-12 15:41:10 · answer #7 · answered by Pearly Gator 3 · 1 0

Praying to God the Father.

Father, Son (Jesus) and Holy Spirit are one, and yet are separate persons of the same God.

2006-10-12 15:39:17 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

jesus is the son of god three in one and one in three

2006-10-12 15:43:02 · answer #9 · answered by mark s 1 · 1 0

I think the more improtant is how did he have sex with his mother to impregnate her with himself?

The bible is full of holes, now watch the christians make excuses.

2006-10-12 15:38:46 · answer #10 · answered by Toronto 3 · 3 1

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