Christian is supposed to believe in One God. So if Jesus is the son of god, then there are two gods. Why do they refer as if Jesus created the universe. if he just born. they say God, ie Father created jesus in Mary's womb. Look at the word created. so Jesus did not create the universe. i intend to believe what Muslim has to say. Christian people believe in crap at times. they have no logic.. i am ashame of my religion. At least Muslim do not reject Jesus. they he is a prophet of God
2006-10-11 22:34:17 · 23 answers · asked by sheila 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
John 10:30
"I and the Father are one."
2006-10-11 22:38:17 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Jesus and God are strangely inchangeable these days. But I don't think that's what people (probably Constantine n' Crew) invisioned when they came up with the ground rules for Christianity. They were the ones who decided on Jesus being more than just a man after all. Before them there were numerous gospels floating around doccumenting Jesus' humanity. Strangely, they all seem to have dissapeared :)
Jesus is supposed to be an element of God, a sort of an offbranch. After all, he is his son. And so is the holy spirit, the metaphysical representation of...a metaphysical being. So God encapsulates all of these things. Jesus doesn't, Jesus and God aren't the same thing. Neither is Jesus a God in his own right, that would be breaking the first rule of Monotheism. Don't get me wrong, he's a god in the classical (everyone with divine powers is a God) sense, but he's not THE God.
I guess you could say the Trinity thing is a handy way of bypassing the harsh restrictions of a Monotheist Belief system. Clever really.
Oh yeah, almost forgot, open your heart, 'insert hallmark greeing card sentimentality', believe, yadda yadda ya.
2006-10-11 22:44:49 · answer #2 · answered by tekn33k 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
You are mistaken in your analysis: The Trinity consists of the Father (God), Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit. Not many people have implied or believe that Jesus created the universe, nor do people call Jesus "God". He is the son of God...
You have the right to believe in whatever you desire, but make sure that you have your information correct before stating that Christian people believe in "crap" and have no logic. The one point about religion that you fail to grasp is tolerance for all...
2006-10-11 22:39:10 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
I am a Christian, so I'll probably get lots of THUMBS DOWN for my answer, but I hope you will read it thoroughly.
I know you have no intention of EVER accepting the Trinity. I know that is one of the fundamental doctrines of Islam, as stated in the Qur'an, so I'm a little puzzled as to why you would bother asking this question, unless you have some ulterior motive.
Jesus is part of the Trinity, just as the Holy Spirit is part of the trinity. There are 3 natures of 1 God. It's that simple. Jesus IS God's son in the sense that He was made in Mary's womb by GOD Himself. There was no HUMAN father. According to the Bible, niether Adam nor Eve had human parents.The Bible states they were created by God, so they are very different from Jesus. They did not prophecize. They performed no miracles. Therefore they do not qualify as "prophets", as the Qur'an asserts.
Jesus said "I and my Father are one" and "before Abraham was, I AM". That is why the Pherisees had him sentenced to death. They beleived Jesus was blashpeming. I don't know if they teach this to you or not, but it's right there in the Bible. Whether you beleive Jesus was actually crucified is up to you, of course.
It is Jesus's crucifiction and resurrection that are most important to Christians. We believe he works AS ONE with God through the Holy Spirit to offer us an OPPORTUNIY for a peaceful afterlife. I'm sorry you are so disenchanted by Christians, but Christianity itself is a perfectly legitimate covenant by God offered to those who are willing to accept it.
Peace
2006-10-11 23:04:44 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Sorry for you but i think you just have to believe that Jesus is the son of God. In the transfiguration, God said, "This is my beloved son, whom I have chosen-listen to him" Luke 9:35. I advise you to be a muslim instead and stop saying bad things about christians. Honestly, i have a lot of muslim friends that are really nice. They even do not understand also the problems associated with other muslims in the terror games, suicide bombings and the like. So in the end it is who and what you are that matters. If you are ashamed of your religion try to look for other religions as long as it is in God that they believe.
2006-10-11 23:21:56 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
but there is understanding if you open your heart and mind. During the last days and hours of Chrst's life, He was show the full side of human emotion. IMO this was yet another a gift to us. Jesus was fully human and these emotions are what nade Him fully human. God had to step back, step away and allow Jesusu to truly feel - even if just for that moment - what it felt like to be truly human so that all the sin of us could enter Him. Christ could not have full received our sins fo he was perfect as Jesus Christ the Son of God, yet for that breif moment - His human side was given precidence.
I'm sorry you are ashamedof your religion. Prehap you should go to a different bible study or to a retreat where you wil be surrounded by people wh can understand your questions and help you work through them.
God Bless
YSIC
2006-10-11 22:40:32 · answer #6 · answered by Marysia 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
properly, at the start, there are 2 different places the place Jesus calls the daddy "His God". yet additionally, the daddy additionally calls Jesus God and Lord in Hebrews a million:8-10. Is the daddy above the Son? No. Is the Son above the daddy (i'm going to get to John 14:28, do no longer challenge)? No. Now, why did Jesus say this? It has to do with Jesus having a Father and Son relationship with God. Jesus is in a fashion, showing understand for the daddy, via calling him "My God". He would not deny his very own deity (John 8:fifty 8, John 17:5, Mark 2:28, Mark 12:35-37). "yet another question I genuinely have is the place interior the Bible does Jesus genuinely say to worship him? " John 5:23 "so as that every person will honor the Son on the same time as they honor the daddy. He who would not honor the Son would not honor the daddy who sent Him." Now, if Jesus have been basically a Prophet, Messenger, or something comparable, how ought to he say to Honor him like the daddy? To honor him because of fact the daddy, is to handle him as a equivalent to the daddy. an challenge-free Prophet saying this, could be stoned to dying as demanded via the Holy Torah. Now, for John 14:28: enable me ask you a question, is Jesus saying the daddy is larger in essence OR authority? Authority, Jesus claims equality with the daddy in John 5:23. "I mean no offence as quickly as I say this yet for my area Christianity is a faith that announces to have self assurance in one God yet chop up him into 3 components and says that one area is larger than yet another." We have self assurance each man or woman interior the Trinity are equivalent, in essence. "God is much better than guy, he's the almighty and might't be defined as a human." Ughhh, we've self assurance God grew to become a guy, we don't think God is a guy. "additionally, who genuinely wrote the bible?" a lot of human beings, Prophets, Kings, Apostles, and so on. "and might you confirm that it is the unique revelation of God?" specific. "look how many adjustments of the bible there is, specific the message in all of them is the comparable yet whilst it is so suited why is there no longer one version that has been preserved?" a million. we've 8,000 unique Greek manuscripts from the 1st and 2d centuries, and 15,000 different manuscripts in diverse languages (Syriac, Armenian, Latin,Coptic, and so on) that have been preserved. 2. maximum of our translations are astonishing, and o.k. translated.
2016-10-19 06:21:45 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Because you disagree with the point of view of others, that does not give you the right to call their belief CRAP! It is narrow minded people like you the keeps swords drawn all over the world.
If you are going to pretend to be the authority on any given subject, you should at least do your research before going public. Your rationalization shows how very very little you know about the intended subject matter.
Go back into your little garbage hole an hope that you are lucky enough that maggots don't eat your unintelligent butt!
2006-10-11 22:56:10 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
It seems that you need to study more in the bible to understand this, The Father did not creat Jesus through Mari, and no body says that, Jesus or the son has existed the same way as the Father, what happened is that the Son took a human body through Mari. He is God same God, and the one God we beleive in,
2006-10-11 22:39:40 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
If you say the Christian idea of the Trinity defies logic, then you understand it as well as any Christian. How can one be three? How can three be one? Yes, you get the idea. Christians considers this concept a "mystery," and we don't understand it any better than you do. That's the whole idea. We're not supposed to be able to comprehend the nature of God with our simple human arithmetic.
The concept of the Trinity is a testament to the Greatness of God. God is not a countable entity. I can have one apple, I can have one pencil, and God is One but He is not countable as one like something I can hold in my hand and point to and say I have "one." God is way way way too great for us to begin to expect to be able to comprehend His nature with our little brains.
Saint Augustine describes a dream he had. In the dream, he was walking along a beach, trying to figure out the mystery of the trinity. How can one be three? How can three be one? How can God be both three and one at the same time? As he walked and thought about this, he saw a kid digging a hole in the sand, and bringing a bucket of water over from the ocean and pouring it in the hole. He did this over and over and over again. Puzzled, Saint Augustine asked him what he was doing.
"Well, you see that ocean over there?" the boy asked.
"Yes," Augustine answered.
"I'm trying to put that ocean over there into this hole over here."
Augustine laughed and told him there was no way he was going to be able to put that whole ocean into that little hole.
The boy looked up into his face and said, "And there's no way you're going to comprehend the nature of God with that little human brain of yours, no bigger than a little hole in the sand."
2006-10-14 02:59:26 · answer #10 · answered by Freedom 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋