2006-10-11 19:16:31 · 25 answers · asked by retorik75 5 in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
I wonder how anyone can characterize that MONSTROSITY of a wall as a fence. Have you ever seen it? Have any of you ever even been the border of Mexico/U.S.A. Do you any of you ever read a history book?
2006-10-11 19:26:01 · update #1
I agree with you and just as the Berlin Wall did not stop East Germans from crossing, neither will the fence/wall that the U.S. dreaming to put up. Besides, there are not enough illegal workers to build the wall.
2006-10-11 19:41:56 · answer #1 · answered by QUE PASA?? 3 · 4⤊ 5⤋
People, it doesn't matter if you compare the U.S.-Mexico fence to the Berlin Wall or the Great Wall or the fence between India and Bangladesh.
The political context might not be the same, but let's boil things down to their simplest elements: both the fence and Berlin Wall are physical barriers; both are meant to keep people from crossing over to the other side. Immigrants south of the border are just as eager as East Germans were to get to the other side. And like the East Germans, the most persistent and wily southern immigrants will find a way to do so.
Not that I care that I've gotten two thumbs down on this answer, but seriously, is the fence not a physical barrier meant to keep people on one side? And have illegal immigrants not gotten in via falsified documents and underground tunnels like the one discovered in San Ysidro? Fences/walls don't address that.
2006-10-12 13:43:42 · answer #2 · answered by Apple 5 · 1⤊ 3⤋
No one has 'seen' it because it isn't built yet. I have read the bill, but it just speaks of layers of security fencing, not sufficiently specific enough to give a mental picture. Where are you getting your 'view'?
And the Berlin wall was imposed by an outside force to split a single nation and to keep people from leaving one area. That isn't the case here at all. There is nothing wrong with a border fence in appropriate areas.
"Berlin Wall" is an emotional argument. Do you have a logical argument?
2006-10-12 09:27:46 · answer #3 · answered by DAR 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Why yes, I have. Let me tell you about it.
The Berlin Wall was erected to keep people from LEAVING East Germany. If we were building a fence to keep American citizens from leaving and migrating to Mexico, then your comparison might be halfway lucid.
Unfortunately, as is the case with the majority of liberal logic, this is not the case.
If there's a comparison to be made, it is with the fence between Bangladesh and India -- or even the Great Wall of China, which was built for essentially the same reasons as our fence is being built.
It’s worth remembering that Berlin Wall divided a nation, spilt it in two. If Mexicans compare the border fence to Berlin Wall, consider the subtext -- that the United States of America has no right to protect it's borders because the US (or parts of it) must be considered Mexican territory. Which is a very interesting, very sobering viewpoint, and one that every American should take a long and careful look at.
2006-10-12 02:29:50 · answer #4 · answered by Simon Templar 2 · 7⤊ 4⤋
Yeah, except it was to keep people in and not criminals out. The East German army shot the East Germans that wanted freedom.
The borders we have involve drug smuggling and islamic terrorist sneaking across the border. Thanks to the fact we aren't taking our border security serious over 70 peace officers have been killed by criminals that have no legal right to be in this country.
By the way have you heard of the Great Wall of China or Israel's security fence. Both did very well to protect those countries.
The problem of two short of a fence can be illustrated by the Maginot Line in France, which cause the national socialists to go farther north to defeat France.
2006-10-12 03:39:59 · answer #5 · answered by .45 Peacemaker 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
the problem is not the teenagers, but the people that still have the mind of a teenager and have the right to vote!
its amusing to see that people consider the great wall of china as an example to follow, and that some centuries didnt change anything in some people's minds. a part from the fact that the great wall didnt stop one (1) sincgle invasion.
the wall, fence whatever u wanna call it will just be the opportunity for those who are going to build it to earn a lot of money, and for the government that will order it to get a piece of the cake!
i wonder why people doesn't worry about that money mis-used and stolen by politicians and their friends with the same passion that they take about the taxes that illegal immigrants dont pay...
a suicide bomber doesnt need to cross the border illegaly. or he could pass the border with canada jsut as easily as the mexican one.
you can build fences or walls or space shields, anyways all of your children will have to learn spanish very soon.
2006-10-12 08:09:01 · answer #6 · answered by maroc 7 · 1⤊ 4⤋
Putting a barrier up on the border of the United States and Mexico is the equivalent of you locking the door of your residence. It acts as an object that will impede the entrance of someone that should not have access.
If you don't like the idea of a barrier being put up on the border, then I must demand that you immediately cease and desist locking the doors and windows of your house or apartment, and to not lock the doors to your car (and leave its windows down for easy access), or to arm any alarm that may protect you and/or your personal property.
And I'm not a teenager, by the way.
2006-10-12 03:54:44 · answer #7 · answered by hawk79 2 · 1⤊ 2⤋
If we had concrete wall like that it'll look like swiss cheese in days. Some have actually put ladders by US Mexico border fence because people kept breaking the fence.
2006-10-12 02:26:55 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
History LESSON time. The Berlin Wall was put up to keep people in , the border fence will be up to keep people out. West Berlin was once under siege during the cold war.
2006-10-12 03:04:13 · answer #9 · answered by not coming back 3 · 4⤊ 3⤋
Ah, let me give you a brief summery...
Communist from the Commecons party Meet in Moscow in 1961 to discuss the closing of the borders between WG and EG. After much controversy, it was destroyed in 1990.
Now, it is funny to me how you compare the Berlin Wall to our situation.... The Berlin wall was erected to keep the skilled workers in East Germany from going to West Germany, and to keep the monetary systems separated. Now...lets ponder this. In what similarity's dose Berlin wall And the fence have in common? Hummmmm...
Yes, I have been to Mexico
I love History
I lived on the border and had first hand look at illegals...Have you?
2006-10-12 02:50:34 · answer #10 · answered by Angel of Man 4 · 3⤊ 3⤋
Not a teenager by any means but have a couple pieces of the wall my mom brought to me.... yes she was there.
So get off your high horsey doll face you were not even born and have zero clue with regard to the reason for or the implications of or the tearing down of that wall.
And It sure as heck has not one thing to do with the illegal alien invasion going on in the USA right now or the fence that may or may not be built.
2006-10-12 02:42:28 · answer #11 · answered by m0j090 1 · 3⤊ 3⤋