If all humans and all genies got together, could they make something "like" the Quran or is this impossible?

Question

Quran 17:88 "If the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/017.qmt.html#017.088

The Quran boasts that even if the race of magical Genies and the race of humans got together, they could never ever make something "like" the Quran.

Lets assume for the moment that the Quran is correct, and there is magical smokey Genie creatures living around us right now. Whats so hard about making something "like" a book...any book for that matter?

Also, isnt this challange itself a logical fallacy? Isnt it a false dilemma to claim that you cant make something "like" X and never explain how to measure whether something is or is not like X?

For example, suppose I issue this challange "My every written word comes from the mind of God, if you dont believe me, try to type something like what I have written".

Answer 1

Sure they can.... Satan is very wise and intelligent ; he can do it....
He actually did....

Answer 2

I am a Muslim and Muslims believe in four books including the Bible. Does that come as a shock! Well now lets see. The truest version of Bible (only God is aware of that now since it has been modified so much that even one copy doesnt match another) was revealed to the human race and contained the message of God for the human race at that time to follow. Similarly when Quran was revealed it was a message and command of God for the whole human race to follow till the end of this world of which only God is aware. It was promised that God will protect it and keep it in its origional form no matter where it is so that ppl can follow what God wills.

This is why Quran , no matter in which part of the world it is found is the same. And by this I mean 100% correct and
in its origional format.

When ur mom gave birth to you she must have prayed or atleast hope dthat you would come out alright.

She did this because she did not create you and simply could not create you since you are Gods creation. This is why docs no matter how hard they try can not return a limb incase a person losses it.

Similary whe you or I talk about the "Holy Quran" we are not refering to something that you or some XYZ wrote....
we are refering to Gods words. This means the soverign who knows everything including the past the future and the hidden. You my dear dont even know the time or even the date of you death. How can your word be equal to whom I worship as Allah.

Answer 3

The Koran gives us scientific facts that were not known at the time of the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh). Things like how babies are formed in the womb. We didn't have the microscopes to know how this was done then. We didn't have the instruments to measure the different temperatures of the rivers within the oceans. We didn't know about geology to know how the mountains played a part in stabilizing the surface of the earth. When the Koran states that all the Jinn and mankind together couldn't produce a work like this they are talking about things that only Allah could know. Even now with all of our modern technologies there is so much that we don't know about the world around us and how it works, what about 1400 years ago? They didn't know all of these things.

Answer 4

Well , to answer the question .. Arabs at the time of the prophet were very clever and professional in poetry and prose .. So when they claimed that Qura'n is not from God .. God asked them to show some thing like it

first he asked them
[52:33] Or do they say, He fabricated the (Message)? Nay, they have no faith! .. Let them then produce a recital like unto it, if (it be) they speak the Truth!

They failed so God Asked them
[11:13] Or they may say, he forged it. say, bring ye then ten Suras forged, like unto it, and call (to your aid) whomsoever ye can, other than God if ye speak the truth

They failed so God Asked them
[2:23]If you have any doubt regarding what we revealed to our servant,* then produce one sura like these, and call upon your own witnesses against GOD, if you are truthful .. If you cannot do this - and you can never do this - then beware of the Hellfire, whose fuel is people and rocks; it awaits the disbelievers

Then the final result was declared
[17:88] Say: if the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Quran, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support.

Answer 5

Sure, kinda like all the logical fallacies in the bible?

And while we're on Jinns....how about some Unicorns....


‘Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?’

The unicorn is also mentioned in Deuteronomy 33:17, Numbers 23:22 and 24:8; Psalm 22:21, 29:6 and 92:10; and Isaiah 34:7. Nowhere in these passages is there any suggestion that anything other than a real animal is being described.

Answer 6

The answer to this can be found in a book written about 100 years ago by a man who had no interest in money.It's called 'The life and religion of Mohammed by J.L menezes.

Answer 7

Your ardous efforts to seek faults with Islam have always been futile
just like other hatemongers.

Anyway, keep going, I'd love to see this failure.

Qur'an stands out among any other book. Qur'an is Qur'an when it's in Arabic. Talk to any Arabic writers or poets.

Answer 8

Oh my God....i wonder how one can be ignorant and still brag and announce it loudly like that?!!
there are miracles in the quran u can't count...everyday science proves something new goes exactly with quran..besides words in quran have meanings goes with every era mankind live...then from the language point of view..u can't ..just can't come with one verse like in quran ...even old arabs who were brilliant in the language were astonished when they heard the quran.
why don't u educate yourself well...or otherwise don't approach topics u can't handle!

Answer 9

In the same linguistic level you moron!

It is a challenge to make something in the same ARABIC linguistic level..and the Arabs at the time of the prophet had nothing to do except poetry and they failed.

Find a better hobby.

Answer 10

Perhaps if you read through the entire Quran it would give you the answer you are looking for.

Answer 11

Ok, I'm only going to say this once (every time you post a question).

The Muslims are our brothers, Christ loves ALL people, Muslims love Christ, shut you face.

Congratulations, you are the first person to make me sort of cuss in several weeks.