All your answers on my other question are, " there is no proof..therefore there is no God "... YES...and " there was no proof the world was round, that atoms existed, that germs lived in the saliva of a human. that the sun was the center of this little place we live in...and THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PEOPLE LIKE YOU that say what the skeptics said then... " Ive never seen it...its not true ". How sad... you end the search for love and beauty by your logic... You walk thru the Mall and your logic tells you people are looking at you..or that girl thought i was cute...etc.etc. and you have NO CLUE if its true or not..yet you conclude and its on your mind all day. If you dont even have a clue about what humans think about you...how could you have a hint of insight into or of the non-existance of God ? Ships came back and said, " the worlds not flat " and the scoffers and mockers still didnt believe. Millions have seen Jesus or His love and miracles..and still you mock... or dont believe...
2006-10-11 05:56:47 · 28 answers · asked by ? 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Millions of books have been written about Gods love and miracles..millions of people will tell of His existance and Jesus love... you have all the proof you need....
2006-10-11 05:57:53 · update #1
Annie, do you believe in Thor? If not, your entire argument is special pleading. I have as much reason to reject the Jesus/YHWH/Holy-Spirit thing as you have to reject Thor.
You say millions have seen Jesus. Millions also have seen UFOs. Millions have seen incarnations of Mary, Buddha, Mohammed, etc.
Millions have seen the Dahli Llama perform miracles.
Almost everyone who has ever lived has experienced love, including those who never even heard of Jesus.
If there is an omniscient omnipotent god out there that wants me to believe in him, he knows what to do to get me to believe. My disbelief is based on rational thought, not emotional arguments, so it really wouldn't be very hard for him to convince me if he wanted to.
According to the Bible, even Jesus' own dsicples did not believe he was coming back until they actually saw him. If the guys who supposedly lived with him and directly experienced him did not even believe in him, it seems rather hypocritical for him to demand that I believe without any credible evidence at all!
2006-10-11 06:06:11 · answer #1 · answered by lenny 7 · 6⤊ 0⤋
Thank you for the preaching, but I don't need it. Do you realize your arguments can be used to either argue for or against the existence of God. You could say that people should believe those who claim to know God exists, but why not believe those who claim he doesn't. I feel that humans have invented God. People have long used mythology as a way to explain what they don't understand. As things get explained, they refine the beliefs to fit. The Greeks used to believe there was a God who moved the sun around in a Chariot. As science actually explained what the sun was, that belief went away. The people who claim to have seen God or felt him I believe. I think their belief is so strong, they have forced the feeling. I don't deny the feeling, just the source. The truth is, no one can possible know for certain if a God exists. This is why God is the perfect invention. I personally don't think God exists, because I've found do reason to. The problem I have is when people are so certain of God's existence.
2006-10-11 13:07:21 · answer #2 · answered by Take it from Toby 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
LOL...it was hardcore Christians that believed in a flat earth and SCIENCE that proved them wrong.
You dismiss other gods with no proof other than stating that your belief is the correct one. Can you PROVE beyond a reasonable doubt that Zeus didn't create the world? Or Ahmad Mazda? Amon-Ra? You wrote "You have NO CLUE if its true or not..yet you condlude and its on yuor mind all day." Um, YOU DO THE SAME THING! It is also called a double-standard.
I think its even sadder that people like you believe that if there were a god that it would torture people eternally for disbelief. If there is a loving god it'll probably thank the skeptics for not blashpeming it.
As for miracles...many religions outside of christianity can "claim" the same, do you believe then that their gods are true? If not, why not? Again, DOUBLE STANDARD.
You are nothing more than a hypocrite.
2006-10-11 13:06:27 · answer #3 · answered by FreeThinker 3 · 5⤊ 0⤋
"Millions of books have been written about Gods love and miracles..millions of people will tell of His existence and Jesus love... you have all the proof you need...."
Urm, I think you mean 1 book was written and a thousand others copied from it. And excuse me for asking this but how can you expect someone to believe a book that has a certain lack of history to back it up and a large amount of history to disprove it?
By the way you're twisting the way you think that people think. It's not a case of "I haven't seen it, it's not true." I haven't seen the pacific ocean but that doesn't mean I don't know it's there. The fact is that there is evidence for theories that disprove things that God is supposed to have done and yet there is none (save for the 'evidence' in scripture) that it is true.
Please get off your high horse and stop preaching.
2006-10-11 13:05:18 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 0⤋
There has also been millions of books written about the existence of the ancient Greek and Roman Gods, do you believe them? And how do I know that the love and "miracles" you speak of are signs of YOUR God? Could they not as easily be the gifts of Buddha or Allah? Or even just happy coincidences? There are millions of books written about unicorns and fairies too, so they must be real. I am not an atheist or a christian, but a philosopher and your argument need improvement before you can convince me.
2006-10-11 13:02:03 · answer #5 · answered by naughtykitty94 3 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Ah... yes... we were once ignorant. Therefore God exists. Good one.
Kid, it's not about "I can't see it". There are alot of things that I can't see that I know exist. I've never once said that I am without belief in God simply because "I can't see God". I doubt you'll ever find an atheist who will truly say "since I cannot perceive a god visually, a god cannot exist".
There have also been millions of books written about Dungeons & Dragons. I should know... my husband loves the game. Therefore I believe we should all worship a Displacer Beast instead of God.
2006-10-11 13:03:04 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 8⤊ 0⤋
The only viable proof could be holy scripture because it's supposedly a divine revelation. It's two thousand years old, mostly of unknown authorship-who wrote the book of Daniel for example, so in spite of the rhetoric there is no proof that is worthy of the name and I suspect you know it. I'm not an atheist but even I admit that from a philosophical and logical viewpoint weak atheism is 100% sound.
2006-10-11 13:10:15 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
I don't totally disagree with you, but you don't ask a question--instead, you sound angry at "disbelievers" and equate them as people who have ended "the search for love and beauty . . ." because they don't believe in the existence of God. This makes no sense because it implies that atheists cannot see beauty in the world and cannot love. Accepting Jesus is as personal a choice as accepting Allah or Vishnu etc. Just because you think you know you're right about your beliefs is not proof that you are. The one proof I know about what I actually see about religion, (note that I did not say 'God') is that it pulls people apart, causes wars, hatred, terrorism in the name of their particular god. You don't know anything about God for sure simply because to know, you would need objective, not subjective proof.
May the god of your choice bless you.
2006-10-11 13:11:26 · answer #8 · answered by heyrobo 6 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Oh, the pity of it all. Since I am an atheist, I can't enjoy the sunset, delight in my grandchildren, marvel at the Grand Canyon -- I am so deprived! You wanna buy a bridge -- I'll give you a quitclaim deed for the Verrazano Narrows Bridge for a very modest price.
More to the point, one can believe in god, if one chooses, and lots of people choose to do so. But such a belief is provably useless, and I consider my time too valuable to waste it on useless acts.
2006-10-11 13:04:02 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋
What a rant.
Atheists believe in love and beauty. They just don't believe in god.
Anyone can write a book on anything. That doesn't make it true.
There is no documented scientific proof of god. That's the point. Yes, lots of people believe in god. Lots of children believe in the tooth fairy and Santa too, does that make THEM real?
2006-10-11 13:01:46 · answer #10 · answered by Gevera Bert 6 · 8⤊ 0⤋