That's tuff. But, no. If we were selected before time began, then Jesus wasted his blood and his breath, and Presbyterian churches are wasting their time and money, and anyone else who believe in Calvinism and yet still tries to witness.
2006-10-11 05:06:15
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answered by Desperado 5
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No one could believe the Bible without believing Calvanism, because it is taught all through the scriptures.
2006-10-11 12:04:30
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answered by wisdom 4
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yes and no. I am a 3 point Calvanist. I don't see how God could NOT predestin(e?) some things, but I see many verses in the Bible that speak of freewill, too. It talks about how God knows the plans for us (Jer. 29:11), it talks about how God has known us before he laid the foundation of the world (sorry, can't remember where and that is probably a bad summation), and there are many verses that clearly state God has predestined us. But I believe we have the choice to follow or not to follow. I believe that we SHOULD minister to other people because that would be our calling and the way that others who are predestined come to know Him. So, like I said, I am a 3 point Calvanist.
2006-10-11 12:08:13
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answered by mountain_laurel1183 5
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I believe in the Scriptures, which the 5 points of Calvinism rightly interprets.Here are just a few(of many) scriptural proofs-
1. Total Depravity
Jer.17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things,
and desperately wicked;
Who can know it?
2. Unconditional Election
Ro.9:15-16
For He says to Moses,
"I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion."
So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.
3. Limited Atonement
John 10:11
"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep.
John 17:9
"I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours.
4. Irresistible Grace
John 6:37a
"All that the Father gives Me will come to Me,
John 10:3-4
To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice.
Acts 13:48b
And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.
5.Perseverence Of The Saints
John 10:27-29
"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand."
2006-10-11 13:28:02
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answered by Hope 5
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Calvinism? You mean the idea that all things are predestined?
Nope. I think it would be nice if Christians took a leaf from him and quit with the evangelism, though.
2006-10-11 12:12:08
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answered by fiveshiftone 4
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My old pastor did, and I guess in a way I do, (which really makes my mom mad, because she is the most anti-cal out there).
But my reason would be, first of all, God knows who is going to be in heaven, even before he created the earth, so in a certain way, I belive it, but I still belive that WE choose our path.
Sorry if I didn't make sense!
2006-10-11 12:04:56
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answered by Jason The Great 6
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Frankly, I've got a real hard time accepting any religion named after a man.
It just seems so inappropriate.
And if they are willing to permit that, what other side-stepping will one find?
2006-10-11 12:04:39
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answered by Uncle Thesis 7
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Calvin taught predestination, which means that evangelism isn't all the necessary. I don't agree with that.
2006-10-11 12:03:23
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answered by Anonymous
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i dont have it right here but it looks beautiful to me. Ive seen it in the past and Presbys do beautiful services IMO
2006-10-11 12:05:29
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answered by Anonymous
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I agree with its rigorous self discipline and austerity but not the theological aspects.
2006-10-11 12:05:03
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answered by Anonymous
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