Is there a relationship between theistic evolution and intelligent design?

Question

Do those camps overlap? Or do they have entirely different models? Reasonably informed opinions most appreciated.

Answer 1

Theistic evolution is opposed to ID really. The whole purpose of ID is to put a foot in the door for Biblical creation. Theistic evolution is not distinguishable from ordinary evolution from our perspective. ID would be.

Answer 2

“Theistic evolution” is “the general opinion” that some or all classical religious teachings about God and creation are compatible with some or all of the human understanding about biological evolution.

“Intelligent design” is “a theory” that some complex biological structures and other aspects of nature show evidence of having been designed by an intelligence.

Such biological structures are said to have intricate components that are so highly interdependent and so essential to a particular function or process that the structures could not have developed through Darwinian evolution, and therefore must have been created or somehow guided in their development.

Materialists believe that blind coincidence caused the universe to shape itself and life to come about by gradually evolving from non-living substances. In other words, all living things in the world emerged as the result of natural influences and chance.

The fact of creation stands in opposition to the theory of evolution. According to the creationist view, matter has not existed for all time and therefore is controlled. God created matter out of nothing and gave it order. All things, living as well as non-living, came into being by God's creation. The amazing design, calculation, equilibrium, and order seen in the universe and in living things are clear evidence of this.

All divine religions have taught that God created the universe by commanding "Be!," and that its flawless functioning is proof of His great creative power. Many Qur'anic verses also reveal this truth.

For example, Allah reveals how He miraculously created the universe from nothing:

"The Originator of the heavens and Earth. When He decides on something, He just says to it, 'Be!' and it is" (Qur'an, 2:117).

He also reveals the following:

He created the heavens and Earth with truth. The day He says "Be!" it is. His speech is Truth. The Kingdom will be His on the Day the Trumpet is blown, the Knower of the Unseen and the Visible. He is the All-Wise, the All-Aware. (Qur'an, 6:73)

Modern science demonstrates the invalidity of the materialist-evolutionist claim and confirms creation. Contrary to the theory of evolution, all the proofs of creation that surround us show that chance had no role in the universe's coming into existence. Every detail that emerges as we observe the sky, Earth, and all living things is intended as evidence of God's great power and wisdom.

This fundamental difference between religion and atheism is that the former believes in God, while the latter believes in materialism.

When Allah asks those who deny, He draws attention to the claims that they assert in order to reject creation:

"Or were they created out of nothing, or are they the creators?" (Qur'an, 52:35).

Ever since the dawn of time, those who deny creation have claimed that humanity and the universe were not created and have sought to justify this irrational and illogical claim. Their greatest support came in the nineteenth century, thanks to Darwin's theory.

Muslims cannot seek a compromise on this issue. Of course people can think as they please and can believe in whatever theories they wish. However, there can be no compromise with a theory that denies Allah and His creation, for this would involve compromising on religion's fundamental element. Of course, doing so is totally unacceptable.

Evolutionists, aware of how such a compromise would damage religion, encourage religious people to try and find such a compromise.

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Answer 3

Intelligent design says that God created the Heavens and the Earth. And His last creation, He created man in His Own image. Theistic evolution says that God created pond scum, and than guided evolution. They are two totally different theories.

Answer 4

ok, 2 extremes... with 2 titled moderate views...

extreme Evolutionary theory, no guidance, entirely random development based on accumulated evolutionary changes, through random chance mutation.

Guided Evolution. belief that God used Evolution as a means to make things as we know them. this basically takes the evolutionary principle, and allows it to be helped along by a overseeing power. ("bumping" punctuated equilibrium to where it needs to be, guiding it... ect...)

"Intelligent Design": belief that God created everything. ... but conceeding that evolution could have been applied as a method for some parts. heavier god-involvement than guided evolution

extreme Creation "theory" evolution is nonsense, god poofed everything into existance in (this is the extreme mind you) literally 6 days, ect.

at least thats how I understand it to be. personally I am a Guided Creation advocate, if you take both creation story in a moderate (ie: interperet-able, not literal) and apply Evolution within the bounds that its reasonable... they fill eachother in quite well.

Answer 5

i believe in "intelligent design" as far believing that G-d created the universe, but i don't believe it happened in the "intelligent design" way that is absolutely literal to the bible. i do believe in evolution, although i don't particularly think G-d had a huge part in it. more likely the earth was created as it was, and humans just randomly evolved with no help from G-d.

Answer 6

Intelligent Design is a term invented by creationist to disguise the fact that they are talking about Biblical creation.

Answer 7

Yes, they're both related. Both claim to use science to back up biblical ideas. Science only draws a conclusion after testing, while faith based "science" only does testing after drawing a conclusion. Science allows the answer to change, where faith based "science" changes the things that lead to their answer...

Answer 8

well, pretty much they're both attempts to concede parts of evolution which are undeniable, while still trying to hold on to 2000 year old mythology.

so there is some similarity

yes I'm dead serious

Answer 9

What is theistic evolution?

Answer 10

Semantics of unproven theories. Some day all will see the power of the Word of God......tell me your little theories then, Pal....tell me then....