Can someone provide a bible verse and an explanation of the trinity?

Question

just curious how 3=1. I am not interested in the "God eternally exists as three persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and each person is fully God, and there is one God" argument, since it makes no logical sense.

Don;t bother answering if you can't tell me the answer and avoid it with the old " it's a mystery" cop-out

Jesus never spoke of himself as God. Always referred to himself as Gods Son, but never as God.

Genesis does say us, but that doesn't make the others in "us" also god?

Answer 1

You already know the answer. They are not a trinity. Three separate beings, just one in purpose. Think about when Christ was baptized. There He was being immersed into the water. The Holy Spirit descended in the form of a dove and God the Father spoke from Heaven. If they were all the one and the same then Christ is one heck of a ventriloquist. There is no trinity, that is a man made concept, from a man made interpretation of the scriptures! and I would like to add that those scriptures have been torn apart and revised so many times that who knows what's accurate and what has been changed and delete in order to make it easier for man to understand. Pray about it! That's the only way for you to really have a full knowledge is to ask GOD! the spirit will let you know what is true in your heart.
The egg and water concept are stupid too. Give me a break.....yeah like the yolk is going to pray to the shell.
There has been much misunderstanding regarding the oft-repeated statement that Jesus and his Father are one. A careful reading of the 17th chapter of John should clarify this matter fully. As Jesus was about to be offered up, he prayed unto his Father and thanked him for his apostles, saying,"that they may be one, as we are."(John 17:11.) Then he added: Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.(John:17:20-21)
Now it is very apparent that Jesus was not speaking of oneness of personage, but oneness of purpose, for he further prayed that they might be with him, which would be unnecessary if the oneness referred to was of personage instead of purpose.
Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am;that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.(John17:24)
Again it is evident that the oneness referred to has no reference to oneness of personage, for if Jesus and his Father were one in person, how absurd to think that Jesus would pray unto himself, or that he would love himself before the foundation of the world. He said: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent," (John 17:3) The gal below me makes a great point too, the Bible does not refer to the trinity but there is plenty of scripture to disprove it!

OH and Jehovah is not GOD he is Jesus Christ let's get things straight. Soooooo much confusion. So much of mens interpretations of the scriptures. That's the problem and that's why the atheist have so much ammuntion Christians can't even agree on what the Bible actually says. How do you think so many religions got out there? Because some guy thought he understood the Bible better then his preacher and thought he could do a better job, so he started his own church. Yep.....pretty crazy out here on Yahoo answers....look at all the chaos amoungst all you Christians look at all the different answers, it's a pretty sad state and I think that half of you wouldn't even know the truth if the truth bit you on the bum.

Answer 2

I don't really feel like giving any serious thought to this, since you are obviously not asking a serious question in a honest attempt to get an answer, but for the sake of anyone else reading this, this cut & paste might help:

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...First, at the baptism of Jesus, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were present. As soon as Jesus came up out of the water, "he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. And a voice from heaven said, ‘This is my Son, whom I love and with him I am well pleased’" (Matt. 3:16-17). The Father’s voice sounded from above and affirmed the Sonship of Jesus, and the Holy Spirit descended on him and empowered him.

Second, at the end of the same Gospel, Jesus is resurrected, and he commissions the disciples to go into all the world and preach the gospel. These two verses are part of the Great Commission, which Evangelicals take seriously. "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" ... (Matt 28:18-19).

...Fourth, Peter the Apostle, the humble fisherman from Galilee, stood in Jesus’ presence when he spoke the Great Commission. Peter may not have fully understood Christ’s words then, but now he begins his epistle, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, restating the Trinitarian formula in his own words. He says that the people of God "have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood" (1 Peter 1:2). It is clear from this verse that each person of the Trinity has a function or role in the world. The Father chooses, the Spirit sanctifies, and Jesus redeems people with his blood that he shed on the cross.

To sum up, the doctrine of the Trinity was first stated in the Gospel of Matthew, both at the baptism of Jesus and in his Great Commission, in his own words. It is only natural, therefore, that the apostles would repeat his doctrine.

The readers should go to here and look up these verses: John 1:1-4, 14:26, 15:26, 16:13-14, 20:25-27; Acts 10:38 in connection with Romans 9:5, 15:13; 1 Corinthians 12:4-6; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:3, 1:8, 1:10; Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1; Jude 20-21. Each passage affirms the function and person of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and sometimes just the Father and the Son....

Answer 3

I am not a Christian, but I can give you a few verses I think. If I were a Christian though, I wouldn't accept the trinity because does it really make sense that Jesus would be calling to himself when he was on the cross. ("Myself, myself! Why have I forsaken me?")

Jhn 10:30 I and [my] Father are one.

1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

These are the only verses I can find that support the trinity. Most verses oppose it because Jesus does always say "my father". I hoped that helped a little bit.

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Oh, yeah. I spend a lot of time in the Christian Chatrooms. In one we decided that the trinity consist of "god pointing his finger, Jesus pulling his finger, and the holy spirit being unleashed." *smiles* Maybe that will help you to understand it better. :)

Answer 4

The word trinity is not in the Bible, but the indicators certainly are.
Look up Psalm 45, and Psalm 110. Both indicate THE GOD speaking to
"HIS OTHER".....also......The Trinity is indicated in 1 John 5:7 if you are using
a King James Bible (others have removed or altered same).

In the Old Testament see Isaiah 44:6 --- and His redeemer I am ---.
and Isaiah 45:11 --- And His maker --.

My favourite indicator is 1 Corinthians 15:28 ! At some point The Trinity will once
again unite because THEN there will be no need for The Trinity !

Water appears as a liquid, steam, and ice. All three are one.
A Clover leaf has three segments, it is but ONE clover.

In both situations above, three are one. Why can't THE GOD do the same?

Answer 5

in case you think the finished Bible then permit's first herald another declarations approximately Jesus: John a million:a million John 20:28 Acts 20:28 Phili 2:9-11, Heb a million:4 Col a million:15 Titus 2:13 Heb a million:8,9 2 puppy a million:a million a million John 5:20 Rev a million:8 (reference the subsequent 2 verses with this one) Rev 4:8 Rev 11:17 the only element I trust is this: the father is a individual, Jesus is a individual, and the Holy Spirit is a individual. they don't look to be in basic terms 3 diverse perspectives of one individual. there is one God and in God there are 3 persons. those persons act in suited cohesion and have diverse places of work in the Godhead. God is sovereign, God is likewise obedient, God has an intimate dating with guy (not all adult men, in basic terms His chosen). the father is acknowledged as all authority. The Son is obedient and is given all authority by using the father, The Holy Spirit brings the believer into the "Father/Son" dating by marriage that's the indwelling presence of the Almighty God.

Answer 6

I John 5 : 7 & 8 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, The Word. and The Holy Ghost and these three are One. (v 8 ) And there are three that bear witness in earth , the Spirit, and the water, and the blood; and these three agree in One'' also read the first chapter of the Gospel of John to define The Word , which is Jesus the Living Word of God.

Answer 7

No, They can't. I think it's amazing that Jehovah's Witnesses get blasted for saying "and the Word was a god" (you may not agree with this translation but it is an honest accurate translation)

and yet 1 John 5:7 adds a who sentence and nobody complains because it agrees with their interpretation.

If "G" in god makes it "God the Father" how do you explain

Judges 13:21 When the angel of the LORD did not show himself again to Manoah and his wife, Manoah realized that it was the angel of the LORD.

22 "We are doomed to die!" he said to his wife. "We have seen God!"

So according to your definition this angel is also part of the trinity, = 4 in one?

or how about

Ex 7:1 1And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet

Does this make Moses a false god?

Ps 82:6, Why would Jehovah make the judges of Israel false gods?

The word god can mean Mighty One. It does not have to mean "false" god.

Moses, the angel and the judges were mighty ones, appointed by Jehovah to do a specific task. They are not in opposition to Jehovah, they are not demanding worship, therefore they are not false gods.

Therefore they are not in violation of the 10 Commandants.

Answer 8

1John 5v7
also check out Matthew 3v16-17. You have the "trinity" going on there too; the Spirt, Son and Father (speaking)

Look at the trinity like an "egg", you got the shell, the yolk, and the white. They are 3 different things but still it's an egg.
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John 10v30 - I and my Father are one.
refering to God (his Father)

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In Genesis 3v5 - when it says "ye shall be as gods"
When you see a small "g" that indicates false gods,
When you see a capital "G" that denotes the true God.
(Jehovah)

Answer 9

Actually there is only one example of a "trinity" anywhere in the bible...

Rev 16:13 "And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs"

This is the only place where a "trinity" is given as an example. The trinity of evil: the dragon (Satan), the beast (anti-christ) and the false prophet. This is the only one true "trinity" found in scripture. All others are applied theories to a structure they don't understand.

Answer 10

You presume to truly comprehend God? If you can truly comprehend God, then how could he be God? Read the first chapter of Genesis. Explain who is referred to in "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness..." Tell me, who is "our"...Who is "us"? When we say "our", when we say "us" do we mean one, or more than one? Whom did Jesus refer to when he called God Father? And when he told his disciples he had to leave in order for the Father to send the Comforter (the Spirit), does that not refer to another? Do you truly want to understand, or just picking a fight?