HOW could Jesus have had faith? He is God; he knows and sees everything without having to turn to anybody else. Now faith consists precisely in leaning on another and in admitting that which is not seen; that Jesus-God could have had faith, therefore, is excluded.”
According to the French theologian Jacques Guillet, that is the dominant opinion in Catholicism.
The question of Jesus’ faith really is an enigma for Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox theologians who believe in the Trinity as “the central mystery of Christian faith and life.” Not all deny Jesus’ faith, however. Jacques Guillet affirms that “it is impossible not to recognize that Jesus had faith,” though Guillet admits that, in the light of Trinity doctrine, it is a “paradox.”
“Faith consists in believing in another, not in believing in oneself,” notes the periodical La Civiltà Cattolica.
Should we thus conclude that God’s Son did not have faith?
2006-10-10 09:20:30 · 15 answers · asked by papavero 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Because Jesus is not God. (John 17: 3; John 17: 21, 22; Matt 26: 39; Mark 13: 32; Rev 1: 1, 3: 14; Matt 20: 20-23; John 14: 28; 1 Cor 11: 3)
2006-10-10 09:28:45 · answer #1 · answered by Nothin wrong 1 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Because the trinity is a Catholic belief and you aren't a Catholic? (or a religion that pegs down from the Catholic church)
There is indeed 3 The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit... but they are not all 1 Being. Just as my neighbor is a Christian, and I am a Christian, we are one (as in the same beliefs), but we are not one body. Have someone point out the word trinity in the Bible.... (you can't it isn't there).
P.S. Next time you have this problem, ask the person why Jesus would pray to himself?
P.P.S In the OT God states that noone will see His face until they are dead. Why then, is there any record of Jesus, wouldn't everyone who has seen him be dead, therefore there would be no witness to His account?
2006-10-10 09:26:22 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
If you think that this is an "enigma for Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox theologians who believe in the Trinity", then I have to conclude that you do not understand historic Christian doctrine at all.
It has long been a Christian doctrine that Jesus had both a divine spirit and a human spirit. The human side of Jesus was not omniscient, had to lean how to walk (just like you & me) and relied on faith, just as any human.
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Chalcedonian churches are those Christian churches that follow the Christological teachings of the Council of Chalcedon, in contradistinction to Ebionites, Arians, Nestorians, Monophysites and Monothelites. The latter are sometimes referred to collectively as non-Chalcedonian. Some non-Chalcedonians call the Chalcedonian teaching Dyophysitic.
The primary emphasis of Chalcedonian christology is the full humanity and full divinity of Jesus (see hypostatic union), the second person of the Holy Trinity. Oriental Orthodoxy viewed this as equating them with Nestorianism (due to the acceptance of two physes), creating a schism.
The Chalcedonian churches, which accept this council, include the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches, as well as most Protestant churches.
2006-10-10 09:30:51 · answer #3 · answered by Randy G 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
First...enable me congratulate you given which you have been a first rate and well mannered questioner....you attempt to charm utilising logical reasoning...and that's EXCELENT. i'm a non trinitarian Christian a Jehovah ´s witness somebody who have faith Jesús is the 1st heavenly Son of Jehovah...and his maximum cherished one. in all risk you're complicated the definition of Trinity. Accordingto Athanasian creed there are 3 divine persons (the daddy, the Son, the Holy Ghost), each and each suggested to be everlasting, each and each suggested to be almighty, none extra effective or decrease than yet another, each and each suggested to be God, and yet jointly being yet one God. different statements of the dogma emphasize that those 3 “persons” are no longer separate and diverse persons yet are 3 modes wherein the divine essence exists. subsequently some Trinitarians emphasize their concept that Jesus Christ is God, or that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are Jehovah If some thing is diverse that the above definition the isn't Trinity to ilustrate: if H2O is wáter....in case you alter some thing of the formulation then isn't wáter. Are we agree until eventually right here?
2016-10-02 04:08:51 · answer #4 · answered by kroner 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well Jesus was God, but also Man, after He came to earth...so I would have to say He had faith, because he was Man as well. He had temptations like we do, and so it would not be surprising that He might have temptations to doubt what He, as a man, could not see. Faith is the virtue that counters those temptations. It would be a contradiction if He as a man did not believe in His Father- which is done through faith.
2006-10-10 09:27:05 · answer #5 · answered by Terial 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
In scripture we learn that Jesus "emptied himself" and was a man like us in all things except sin.
Many of things Jesus said and did lead us to believe that he relied on the Father and the Holy Spirit for everything he needed, just as we do.
And if his human body/soul/divinity worked anything like ours, he had just as much trouble communicating with his heavenly Father as we do.
His actions in the Garden of Gethsemane, and at the Last Supper were those of one who really expected to die, and who possessed an expectation, but no absolute certainty, of rising agan.
And since no one (not even God) had ever done anything like it before, there was reason to be concerned.
Finally, Jesus could not have been a real man if he didn't need to, at some basic level, operate on faith.
Otherwise, his incarnation would have been a mere simulation of being a man .... and God doesn't do things like that.
2006-10-10 10:57:57 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
lots a folk thiknk that the catholics are screwed up whent to a catholic school but found jesus after I left school ok so some catholics are christian how about praying to jesus your self and finding out wheter he is real rather than going over the disectra memba of some obscure psudo theologial question ?????
I conclude that you are hiding from him
2006-10-10 09:26:22 · answer #7 · answered by proscunio 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Why are you puting your faith in Jacques Guillet and La Civilta Cattolica?
2006-10-10 09:29:52 · answer #8 · answered by Born Again Christian 5 · 0⤊ 2⤋
No we should assume that the doctrine of the Trinity is not true. If you treat God, Chirst, and the holly Spirit as three seperate and desticnt individuals and realize that they are one simply in purpose, the work of bringing to pass the imortality and eternal life of man, it all makes much more sence.
2006-10-10 09:24:06 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
God is God, Jesus is His Son.
2006-10-10 09:24:22 · answer #10 · answered by MishMash [I am not one of your fans] 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋