Regarding school or educational vouchers: For those who say they would NOT approve?

Question

Why should Christian children be forced to learn about things that they and their parents do not sanction either? Seriously my sons have learned about the "Evolution theory" but if someone does not wish it NO ONE has the right to violate their beliefs any more than they have the right to violate your rights. So why should anyone pick for another what can or can't be taught?

Actually I would not trust the public school system to instruct my dog. Mam but I do feel that parents have the basic right to decide what and how their children will be taught.

For Don: If they pay taxes then I feel that they should have equal rights as to their children. I have no problem with those of those faiths educating their children accordingly.

Answer 1

No one is "forcing" christian parents to send their kids to public school.
My son goes to public school in California. During free time he drew a picture of a guy with sword. He was told that his picture was violent and they do not tolerate violence in school. He is not allowed to go down the slide upside down, or sideways. Or, to wrestle with his friends. He is not allowed to tell yo mamma jokes-even though the "dozens" are a relevant part of his culture and he should be encouraged to hone his skill. His education is very emasculating. I would prefer it, if they stuck to the basics and did not try to socialize my child.
I am not forced to send him. I accept the compromise.

Vouchers are ridiculous because the cost of running a school is comprehensive, not based on number of children attending. Vouchers would destroy the public school system and then you would not even have a choice to make.

Besides, most families (especially radicals with single income stay at home moms) taxes won't even cover the street light in front of their dwelling-let alone the full cost of their own childrens education. Someone else is footing the bill for your childs education and the libraries and city parks...Your own tax liability can't even put a dent in it. You are not owed anything. Your children, however, are entitled to attend a public school in your district and ride a school bus, if you live too far away to walk.

Answer 2

I agree that people who wish to send their child to an accredited private school should get a tax credit or at least a deduction, for their tuition payment. But the details get a little complicated, and many public schools aren't even accredited. It is in the best interest, however, of a child who plans to attend college, to learn about evolution. There are some issues in history that I believe parents could do a better job of teaching than the public schools, however.

Answer 3

The solution is school vouchers. It then forces our schools to operate on exactly the same ground as a business. You give the majority what they want or you don't stay in business long. There has to be a customer base for any product whether that product is creationism, or whatever.
I personally put my child in Christian school. It irks me that not only is creationism not taught, neither are the historical facts of the Israelites. They existed too.

I for one want school vouchers. The parents have the right to choose the type of education their tax dollars pay for. Who ever said the government knew what was best to teach our children?

Answer 4

That's a different issue. The issue at stake is the separation of church and state. Since public schools are under the body of the state, they should not have religion as a part of them and should therefore not teach religion. There is no separation of science and state (at least not a declared and upheld one), and so science classes are not restricted. If you'd like to willfully keep your children ignorant though, feel free.

And seriously, what's next? People not wanting French because they're openly anti-semitic? Spanish because the Mexicans keep coming over illegally and stealing American jobs? German because of the Nazis? History because it's really just the white man's story? Literature because it teaches people how to manipulate another's words to mean whatever you want? Art because teachers are biased to their own likes and grade other projects unfairly? Higher math because most people won't need anything beyond algebra I or geometry in their lives?

And if you want to get right down to it, evolution is one small unit in biology. Tell your kid to take the F if it bothers you that much. Failure in one test in science, the latest travesty in the horrible persecution of the majority. If you're worried about how it will affect your child's future, you could always suggest that they explain it in a college application essay. Who knows, could be a good topic.

Answer 5

I was a TA and Lab Instructor for Astronomy in college. One day in the middle of the semester the course instructor, my department head, came in and announced, "Two weeks ago we taught you _____. We now understand that _____ is the correct understanding of that data.

REAL science is fluid. What is thought to be true one day may be proven false the next. Wait a while and scientists will change their minds.

Beware though, because TEACHERS often refuse to consider facts, even after their prior ideas have been proven wrong…

I have tried several times to teach elementary teachers BETTER math techniques only to be told, "You can't do it that way" or "We can only teach the 'approved' methods" or "Our kids could never understand that." (With 43 semester hours of college math beginning with Calculus 1, I do understand the field.) After helping the 8th grade daughter of a missionary friend who was attending school in a supposedly “third world” country with her Calculus homework… then learning that she was in 7th grade math rather than the regular 8th grade class because the US system was SO FAR BEHIND, I learned just how much BETTER math education COULD BE DONE.

I think we need to seriously upgrade and update the technical education our children receive if we are to have any chance of competing with those "third world" countries where so many technology jobs are moving.

Answer 6

Why should we require ANY education for our children? Why not allow the parents to turn their children into ignorant dolts if they want to?

Answer: Because it is one of the jobs of government to insure that it's citizens are educated. Part of any reasonable education is making sure that children are educated with facts, not fictions. Otherwise it's pointless. As it happens, and since you keep bringing it up, the 'Theory of Evolution' is not a theory anymore than the 'Theory of Gravity' or 'Sub-atomic theory' is. It has been established as factual to a degree that depriving children of that knowledge would be doing them a disservice in our attempt to educate them in the knowledge of our time.

Now of course, if you don't agree that we should be able to make legally sure of providing a good education to our children, that's another matter.

Answer 7

ok, if you had a problem with your child in a school that teaches the basics and more to have a future, why dont you home school or send you child to a christian school. schools dont need religion, because who is to say what religion should be taught in a school, if one was picked then it would go against anothers belief, and so on, school is for learning not religion, right?

Answer 8

I do not approve of vouchers because it takes away from poor people who can not afford private education. Certain people in our country would continue in perpetual ignorance if it were not for public education. Homeschooling children is a great option for those parents who are educated already or who educate themselves but those who are basically ignorant do not have this option.

Public education is necessary to enable and sustain Democracy.

Answer 9

I think it all should be taught equally! Creationism...Big Bang....Evolution....It is all theory. I don't have children yet but I would be very leery to send them to public school. I know a lady who started a christian school because she didn't like what her child was being taught. Now there are about 300 children at that school.

Answer 10

Christians rights are violated on a daily basis. That is why it is so important that parents need to teach in home what their kids cannot learn in school. Church is a vital part of their spiritual growth too.