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how can a muslim show that they are peaceful, if they are allowed to lie to infidels? am I making it up? read the koran. maybe Im missing something, but I dont see how they can prove it, especially with Iraqis fighting over whether the govt should be shiite or sunni. big deal.

2006-10-10 05:59:28 · 15 answers · asked by kunta kinte 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Knight, youre either completely wrong or youre lying. first of all if you think a muslim can marry a Christian, then find me a Christian male who has married a muslim woman. find me ONE. sure, muslim MEN may marry naive Christian women, but thats because they are muslim MEN.

2006-10-10 07:14:10 · update #1

Dark Lady, if someone offends your religion, do you go and burn his/her church or kill them? Jesus teaches to love your enemy. Muhammad killed many people who were against him.

2006-10-10 07:15:53 · update #2

for those who claim to have "peaceful" muslim friends, or for those who think muslims are peaceful, what do you about muhammad letting them lie to infidels? if theyre peaceful, its a scheme.

2006-10-10 07:17:48 · update #3

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Sura.5:51 disdains the Jews. Mohammed said, “The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims kill them.” (Mishkat Al Masabih Sh.M. Ashraf pp.147, 721, 810-11, 1130).

Islam divides the world into dar al-Islam (the house of peace) and dar al-Harb (the house of war). To bring "peace," Allah commands, "I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads! (8:13); Slay the idolaters wherever you find them...(9:5); O Prophet, struggle with the unbelievers and hypocrites and be thou harsh with them...(9:73); Believers, make war on the infidels that dwell around you..." (9:123). Perpetual jihad is commanded until all the world is under sharia. Nor would that bring peace, because Muslims fight among themselves, as history testifies.
The fourth and last of the "rightly guided" caliphs was Ali, Muhammads cousin and son-in-law. Accused of complicity in Uthmans murder, he never fully established his rule. Aisha supported a rebellion against him, resulting in the Battle of the Camel in which 10,000 were killed. Ali won, but was murdered in 661.
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Islam Is Not a Religion of Peace

Dave Hunt, The Berean Call
That Islam is "peace and tolerance" is the most popular lie in the world today. Intellectuals in the West who defame Christ parrot the most fatuous praise of Muham--mad, in spite of his legacy of murder, pillage and rape. A Sesame Street-type Arabic TV program features children training to be suicide bombers and chanting "Death to Israel" -- for peace, of course. Reporter Ann Coulter suggests, "Inasmuch as liberals are demanding that Americans ritualistically proclaim, Islam is a religion of peace, Muslims might do their part by not killing people all the time." 1
That our leaders promote this lie, and that so many believe it without one fact to support it, bodes ill for America and the world. We only ask Muslims for one example of where and when Islam ever brought peace and tolerance -- and please dont threaten us with death (the standard Islamic persuasion) for asking!
Never forget that Muslims slaughtered and conquered "for Allah" from Spain to China. These Arab conquests (defensive battles, they claim) were "more rapid than the Roman, more lasting than the Mongol...the most amazing feat in military history." 2
Islams founder, Muhammad, began his career attacking rich caravans passing near his base in Medina. The first three assaults failed. The fourth succeeded because the victims were surprised by an ambush during Ramadan. Arab tribes had long refrained from aggression in that "holy month." Muhammad, however, had received a "revelation" authorizing plunder and murder in Allahs name during this special time of peace (Surah 2:217). Another absolved the Muslims of killing: "Ye slew them not, but Allah slew them" (Surah 8:17).
Most Muslims dont realize that in observing Ramadan and the annual pilgrimage (hajj) to Mecca, they follow what pagan Arabs practiced for centuries before Muhammad was born (see TBC Feb 00). Had President Bush known the truth instead of the misinformation fed to him by Cleveland State University law professor David F. Forte, 3 he might not have hosted a White House dinner honoring "the holy month Ramadan," nor flattered Muslims saying "all the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements." Benefit?
Challenged to do miracles like Christ, Muhammad could do none. On March 16, 624, near Badr, he led 300 warriors in a vicious attack against a large Meccan caravan protected by a force of 800. Some 40 Meccans were killed and 60 taken prisoner to a loss of only 14 Muslims. This amazing victory was seen as the attesting miracle Muhammad needed. As a result, the ranks of Muslims swelled with those eager to share in future plunder.
Having proved himself the prophet of Allah with the sword, Muhammad sealed his apostleship with more than twenty murders, beginning with al-Nadr, an old enemy from Mecca. Taken captive in the battle at Badr, he pleaded that the Meccan Quraish tribe would never kill captives. Muhammad had him beheaded anyway, justifying the deed with another "revelation": "It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land" (Surah 8:67).
Much of the growing Muslim wealth came from robbing and killing Jews, causing "the disappearance of these Jewish communities from Arabia proper"4 -- justified by a further "revelation" (Surah 33:26,27). To this day, by law no Jew may set foot in Saudi Arabia.
A number of poets were murdered at Muhammads behest for having mocked him in verse. The first was the poetess Asma bint Marwan, stabbed to death by Umayr while she was nursing her youngest child. The poet Abu Afak (reportedly more than 100 years old) was murdered next. Then came the Jewish poet Kab bin al-Ashraf. A timely "revelation" said all poets were inspired of Satan (Surah 26:221-227).
Does it bother todays Muslims that murder, rape, plunder and slavery of innocent people were the accepted way of life upon which Islam was founded and still operates? Apparently not. Kabs murder (the account slanted with fictitious details) is justified on a popular Muslim website, revealing Islams peculiar meaning of "peace" and "justice":
Kab had become a real danger to the state of peace and mutual trust which the Prophet was struggling to achieve in Madinah....The Prophet was quite exasperated with him....This was all part of the great process...which helped to make Islam spread and establish it on foundations of justice and piety. 5 [Emphasis added]
Christ left Christians "an example, that ye should follow his steps: who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not...[but] bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness..." (1 Pt 2:21-24). But the Muslim must follow the example of Muhammad who killed all who dared to disagree with him!
A Christian must "know" God (Jer 9:24; Jn 17:3), "love" God with all his heart (Dt 6:5; Mt 22:37, etc.) and "believe" in Christ in his heart (Acts 8:37; Rom 10:9). The God of the Bible wants mans trust and affection without coercion.
In contrast, Allah can be neither known nor loved. Nor does one even have to believe to become a Muslim. Under threat of death, one merely recites aloud, "There is no ila (god) but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet." This "conversion without faith" was established when Abu Sufyan, a Quraish leader, upon surrendering Mecca in 630 to Muhammad and his superior army, admitted that he doubted the latters prophethood. He was warned, "Accept Islam and testify that Muhammad is the apostle of Allah before your neck is cut off by the sword. Thus [without believing] he professed the faith of Islam and became a Muslim." 6 This pattern is followed today: confess or die!
Upon Muhammads death in A.D. 632, many Arabs attempted to abandon Islam. Abu Bakr (the first caliph to succeed Muham-mad) and his warriors in the infamous Wars of Apostasy killed tens of thousands of ex-Muslims, forcing Arabia back into Islam. Muhammad had commanded, "Whoever relinquishes his faith, kill him." Islam is still enforced this way under sharia (Islamic law) in Saudi Arabia and wherever Muslims are able to do so. This is peace and tolerance?!
The Universal Islamic Declaration of Human Rights was announced at the International Conference on the Prophet Muhammad and his Message held in London in April 1980. It declares, "Islam gave to mankind an ideal code of human rights fourteen centuries ago...based on the Quran and the Sunnah [teachings and practice of Muhammad]...." Human rights? What deceit!
Abu Bakr was succeeded as caliph by Umar Abu Hafsa. His armies took Damascus in 635, Antioch in 636, Jerusalem in 638, Syria in 640, Egypt and Persia in 641. Entire cities were massacred, such as Behnesa, Fayum, Nikiu and Aboit in Egypt, Tripoli in North Africa and Euchaita in Armenia. Carthage was razed to the ground. In 644, Umar was murdered.
Uthman ibn Affan, the third caliph, consolidated and expanded the growing Islamic empire. A son-in-law of Muhammad, he standardized the Quran, burning all rival copies over protests of those still alive who remembered different readings and missing verses. Among these was Muhammads favorite wife Aisha who, by the way, never veiled her face. Uthman, too, was murdered by a rival Muslim faction. Prevented from being buried in a Muslim cemetery, he was buried at night by friends, ironically, in a Jewish cemetery.
Islam divides the world into dar al-Islam (the house of peace) and dar al-Harb (the house of war). To bring "peace," Allah commands, "I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads! (8:13); Slay the idolaters wherever you find them...(9:5); O Prophet, struggle with the unbelievers and hypocrites and be thou harsh with them...(9:73); Believers, make war on the infidels that dwell around you..." (9:123). Perpetual jihad is commanded until all the world is under sharia. Nor would that bring peace, because Muslims fight among themselves, as history testifies.
The fourth and last of the "rightly guided" caliphs was Ali, Muhammads cousin and son-in-law. Accused of complicity in Uthmans murder, he never fully established his rule. Aisha supported a rebellion against him, resulting in the Battle of the Camel in which 10,000 were killed. Ali won, but was murdered in 661.
Wars of succession pitted Quraish against Bedouins, Umayyads against the Hashimite followers of Ali, etc. Most of Alis family were killed by rival Muslims in 680. Mecca was besieged by troops of Yezid, an Umayyad; the Kaaba (later restored) was burned to the ground, its Black Stone split into three pieces. Mecca was taken in 692 by Abd-al-Malik (who in 691 had built the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem to replace the Kaaba). He united Muslims once again by force and Islam continued its conquests.
In 712, Muslim raiders under Muhammad Qasun began the invasion of India, demolishing temples and palaces and massacring, as in Constantinople, where the streets ran with blood. "The massacres perpetrated by Muslims in India are unparalleled in history, bigger in sheer numbers than the Holocaust...."7 But Islam is "peace!"
The Umayyad caliphate ruled the Muslim world until 749 when all of the Umayyads were murdered by the rival Abbasids, except one survivor, abd-al-Rahman, who fled to Spain where he established an independent caliphate. Thus began the Abbasid caliphate, which lasted until 1258 in spite of intrigue, assassinations and uprisings -- all peaceful, of course.
The double-cross and murder of Muslims at the hands of Muslims continues to this day. Scarcely a Muslim regime is not ruled by a dictator who seized power from other Muslims, as in Syria and Iraq. The ten-year revolution in Algeria has cost 100,000 lives. In Afghanistan, rival Muslim warlords fight one another. "Infidels" have to intervene there as in the Gulf, to enforce peace among "peaceful" Muslims.
Muslims loyal to the murdered Ali and his sons are called Shiites (the majority in Iran). The others are called Sunnis and comprise the majority elsewhere. These two factions have long demonstrated that "Islam is peace" by fighting one another, as in the eight-year war between Iran and Iraq when more people were killed than in World War I.
Muslim conquests involving multiple massacres of literally millions continued for more than 1,300 years. Under the Abbasids the Islamic empire reached its zenith of power, prosperity and learning.
In Spain (to which Muslims point as an example of their tolerance) the garrison of Muez was slaughtered in 920; Pamplona was put to the sword in 923; then Cordova, Zaragoza and Mereda, with all adult males killed and women and children enslaved. The Jews of Granada were butchered in 1066, 34 years after 6,000 Jews had been slaughtered in Fez, Morocco. In 1146, Islamic Fez was put to the sword by rival Muslims, the Almohads, who conquered much of North Africa after annihilating the Almoravides (another Muslim faction) with about 100,000 massacred, another 120,000 killed in Marrakesh, and similar slaughters elsewhere -- all gestures of "peace."
The 400-year rule of the Ottoman Turks saw forced kidnappings of young boys into Islam and slavery, causing parents to mutilate children to make them undesirable. Under the Ottomans, being Greek, Armenian, Serb or any other non-Muslim was to live in daily fear of murder, rape, torture, genocide. To this day, Serbs and Bulgarians loathe Turks and Bosnians.
When Sultan Murad III died, his son Muhammad had all nineteen of his brothers murdered and the seven of his fathers concubines who were pregnant sewn into sacks and thrown into the sea. The successor of Murad IV had all 300 women in his harem sewn into sacks and thrown into the Bosphorus. Like so many other Muslim leaders, he was murdered- -- peacefully.
The persecution of Jews in Roman Catholic Europe was mild compared to what Ottoman Christians endured for four centuries. More than a million Armenians were slaughtered in the last decades of the nineteenth and the first of the twentieth centuries, as well as many thousands of Jews, Greeks, Assyrians, Lebanese, et al. Tragically, the oppression and bloodshed were often condoned by Western powers, particularly England and at times America. In the great 1915 genocide, "women came with butcher knives [to] gain that merit in Allahs eyes that comes from killing a Christian." 8 The destruction of Smyrna in September 1922 with the deliberate massacre of nearly 300,000 inhabitants is another example of Islamic "peace." English, American, Italian and French battleships anchored in the harbor repelled fleeing victims who swam out to them for help.9
The popular "explanation" that Osama bin Laden and other terrorists are not Muslims, but fanatics, is a rebuke to the Quran, to Muhammad, and to Islam itself. As Trifkovic writes (p. 127), "Thirteen centuries of...suffering and death of countless millions, have been covered by the myth of Islamic tolerance...." The West winks at the blatant denial of basic human rights and support of terrorism by Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries -- even favors Islamic terrorists in Chechnya, Cyprus, Bosnia, Kashmir, Kosovo, Macedonia, Sudan and East Timor.
Our politically correct delusion is leading to disaster. Tragically, the gospel is kept from Islamic countries by the failure of Western governments to admit and confront the truth about Islam. Please continue to inform yourselves, to protest to our leaders, to pray for Gods intervention, and to be witnesses for Christ to Muslims in our country. TBC

1 www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/coulter.html

2 Will Durant, The Story of Civilization (Simon and Schuster, 1950), IV: 188.

3 Imprimis (Oct 2002), 2-6; Serge Trifkovic, The Sword of the Prophet: The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (Regina Orthodox Press, 2002), 83-84 (See offering list).

4 W.N. Arafat, Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland, 1976, 100-107.

5 www.islam101.com/people/companions/maslamah.html

6 Cf. Ibn Hisham, part 4 of his Biography of the Prophet, cited in Trifkovic, Sword, 48.

7 Trifkovic, Sword, 112.

8 Michael J. Arlen, Passage to Ararat (Ruminator Books, 2002), 224.

9 Nicholas Gage, Greek Fire (Alfred A. Knopf, 2000), cited in Trifkovic, 125.
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2006-10-10 06:13:09 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 9 4

Islam kill with a reason,if their enemy starts 1st.they must defend.
or they will rule ur religion.
and Islam won't kill their enemy without a reason.
Islam shouldn't harm their enemy 1st.That is quran teach us.
enemy harm,Islam harm.
enemy good,Islam good.that is peace.


islam kills the murtad(islam converted to another) means not they "kill".they meant Murtads same as to be kill because if they lived till the end,their long journey/life will be useless without believing Allah because at the end the place is the same,it is call HELL,same as if they been kill.got it??
so they could die faster without wasting their life.

2006-10-10 14:30:06 · answer #2 · answered by ike 3 · 0 2

what is meant by "peaceful"?
Having someone get raped and do nothing?
Leaving properties being stolen or destroyed by others?
Having the sacredness of your religion violated and just pretend it's not happening?
Have your other cheek be slapped again?

2006-10-10 17:06:15 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

A true Muslim is peaceful. I know this because I have studied their bible (the Qur'an). I am a born christian but while I was in basic training for the military me and some friends decided to attend a few of their religious studies. The Koran teaches about peace and tolerance. A Muslim can even marry a christian. Killing another Muslim is completely against their teachings. It is the extremists that need to read their Qur'an. They kill other Muslims and tolerate none but their on ideology. The problem is that the extreemists have been around nearly as long as the true Muslims. All religions have exteemists its just the Muslims have been the ones in the spotlite due to the way the world is today.

2006-10-10 13:17:01 · answer #4 · answered by knight35966 4 · 2 10

Of course Muslims are peaceful, and if you don't believe it they will kill you.... Jim

2006-10-10 13:31:21 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

yes you are missing not something, a lot. Quran does not teach to lie to anyone. Iraqis were not fighting before they were invaded, more Iraqis have died since the US invasion than were killed in the last so many years, look at what you are voting for, not what is happening in others' countries, peace

2006-10-10 13:03:50 · answer #6 · answered by HK3738 7 · 2 9

I have yet to see any evidence to support the notion that they are peaceful, just a simple drawing of a cartoon and they'll cut your head off.

2006-10-10 13:01:57 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 8 6

You think their lies are bad? Look at these...

KORAN commands to kill infidels:

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43

If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8

You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71

Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74

Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54

Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65

It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67

Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28

Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.

Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41

O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73

Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111

Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....

As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15

Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60

Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14

When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.

Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5

Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25

Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29

Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9

The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51

2006-10-10 13:10:33 · answer #8 · answered by Born Again Christian 5 · 7 3

i read qur'an many many times cover to cover maybe u need read it more .
we have killing infidels in wars .. if they harm ur country .. if they rape and stole ur wells .. when they try makeing the Islam
so weak .. we must defend .. also we must not kill any body safe or not in wars its forbidden in Islam .
so why there is a lot of them working in Islamic country and they r happy ?

2006-10-10 13:16:37 · answer #9 · answered by Alone 4 · 2 8

The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful. You are trying to define an entire religion by the actions of extremeists.

2006-10-10 13:02:50 · answer #10 · answered by Blackacre 7 · 4 10

Islam is peaceful with those who are peaceful with it.

[61] But if they incline to peace, you also incline to it, and (put your) trust in Allah. Verily, He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower.
Quran 8:61

now this is the Islam. but if you want to talk about people behavior and mix it with Islam. then we also can talk about killing native Americans, World war I&II, Horishima, racisim and much more.

2006-10-10 13:06:56 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 3 9

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