Is this proof of the fulfillment of prophecy?

Question

Does using the new testament as proof that the predictions in the old testament are true make sense at all? The whole book was written by men. Not a word of it was "inspired by God".

Prove that it was inspired. Did God move their hands for them? Did they hear voices in their head?

Thanks Ted the Herb Killer, you just proved my point.

Answer 1

Ted the, only said what you wanted to hear. There is no proof in what he said.

All bibles you will ever read or see are translations of a collection of writings from many different languages.

they were all written long after the time Jesus was supposed to be here.

It is very easy to predict the future if you give the people enough choices. Even easier when you already know what has happened and write as though it was before.

At the time of Jesus there were many like him prophesying around that part of the world and many using very much the same name but in different languages. There are many names for Jesus depending on what language and who translated the writings.

The king James is a very popular bible. Look up in history to see when he reigned over England. He had scribes translate the older versions into English. It would not be likely that any of the scribes would write something that the king disagreed with.

Now do you begin to see that what seems to be fact just may not be.

Or are you still blindly going to only look for what you want to see or hear and ignore any other.

I am not writing to prove or disprove anything. I only am trying to get people to look at things in a different way and ask questions.

Answer 2

One of the principles of Bible reliability is Prophecy, or predictive ability. The Bible records predictions of events that could not be known or predicted by chance or common sense. Surprisingly, the predictive nature of many Bible passages was once a popular argument (by liberals) against the reliability of the Bible. Critics argued that the prophecies actually were written after the events and that editors had merely dressed up the Bible text to look like they contained predictions made before the events. Nothing could be further from the truth, however. The many predictions of Christ’s birth, life and death (see below) were indisputably rendered more than a century before they occurred as proven by the Dead Sea Scrolls of Isaiah and other prophetic books as well as by the Septuagint translation, all dating from earlier than 100 B.C.



Old Testament prophecies concerning the Phoenician city of Tyre were fulfilled in ancient times, including prophecies that the city would be opposed by many nations (Ezek. 26:3); its walls would be destroyed and towers broken down (26:4); and its stones, timbers, and debris would be thrown into the water (26:12). Similar prophecies were fulfilled concerning Sidon (Ezek. 28:23; Isa. 23; Jer. 27:3-6; 47:4) and Babylon (Jer. 50:13, 39; 51:26, 42-43, 58; Isa. 13:20-21).



Since Christ is the culminating theme of the Old Testament and the Living Word of the New Testament, it should not surprise us that prophecies regarding Him outnumber any others. Many of these prophecies would have been impossible for Jesus to deliberately conspire to fulfill — such as His descent from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Gen. 12:3; 17:19; Num. 24:21-24); His birth in Bethlehem (Mic. 5:2); His crucifixion with criminals (Isa. 53:12); the piercing of His hands and feet at the crucifixion (Ps. 22:16); the soldiers’ gambling for His clothes (Ps. 22:18); the piercing of His side and the fact that His bones were not broken at His death (Zech. 12:10; Ps. 34:20); and His burial among the rich (Isa. 53:9). Jesus also predicted His own death and resurrection (John 2:19-22). Predictive Prophecy is a principle of Bible reliability that often reaches even the hard-boiled skeptic!

Answer 3

Such a foolish question, how could something be written by men who never knew each other, never met each other and were born hundreds and some thousands of years apart, yet every prediction comes true, all the scriptures match each other and all the timelines predicted fall exactly to the day predicted, some thousands of years afterward. Ignorance and uninformed shooting off at the mouth with no education of such matters is where statements such as yours come from. Believing that you are somehow brilliant in your foolishness and showing the prideful arogance to make such unfounded unsearched claims only reveal you to be uneducated and hopelessly floundering. May God open your eyes and reveal real truth to you, so that you won't be so miserably lost.

Answer 4

That may be true if the books were written now but since the books were written less than a century after the events occured, there would have been people around to refute some of the bigger claims. For instance, the messiah was suppose to be born in the city of Bethleham. That's something that couldn't be faked. The people of Bethleham would still remember those really stange occurances that happened that night and they'd be able to come forward and dispute it as fraudulant. Same with the ressurection. Christianity could not have possibly spread in Jerruselum like it did unless the people had actually witnessed Jesus being alive after they had just crucified Him. Otherwise they would have just called the Disciples liars and went on their merry way.

Answer 5

The purpose of fullfilled prophecy is to verify the Devine influence or approval on a subject.

There are over 300 prophecies that were fullfilled by Christ. One example is when the wise men went to Herod and asked, "Where is the king of he Jews so that we may worship Him?" "Herod asked the Scribes about this and they quoted the book of Hosea - siting that it would be in Bethlehem, the city of David. They knew where the Messiah was to be born.

This is a fact that could not be manipulated by Jesus. By itself it is not a fullfillment of prophecy since millions have been born in Bethlehem. But this event coupled with all of the other fullfilled prophecies provide verification of Jesus' claims.

You say that the Bible is not inspired by God: "Not one word". That's your opinion and you are free to believe that. I believe that not only is every word inspired by God but that it was specifically written so that you, and I mean you, would come to know Him personally through His Son. You are free to reject Him. That is your choice. I hope that you, however, make a different choice.

Answer 6

James says all scripture was inspired by God. He is a New Testament writer. Even if you don't believe in God's inspiration, what is incorrect about the Bible?

Answer 7

I disagree with you. I think the Bible is the written living word inspired by God. All the answers to Life is in there and my Life is proof!

Answer 8

The old testament and new testament prophecies are occurring before your eyes, or do you know much about them?

1948 Israel became a nation. (Who'd a thought it?)
1967 Jews captured Israel.
Russia will be a mighty power--and it is.
China will be a mighty power--and it is.
The E.U. will form--and it is on its way to being a world power.

Just to name a few. Could go on and on.

Answer 9

If it isn't inspired by God, how did ordinary men manage to accurately predict things that would happen 300 to 2000 years in the future?

Answer 10

You make an excellent point, but the Christian church intentionally mistranslated parts of the OT to help create many Christian myths, especially those about the messiah and the Christian creation of evil demons, hellfire / damnation and a powerful "Satan" -- all Christian nonsense borrowed from Greek and other mythologies.

There is almost no connection between the two "testaments". Christianity was erected on a deliberately fraudulent version of Judaism, not the real thing.

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