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In movies jewish people are usually very picky about the people their kids are with and everything and thinking of the number of people who oppress the jewish on a daily basis I would think they would be rather humble people yet in my area, to my knowlege, I have never seen a jewish church and never to my knowlege met a jewish person (as silly as that sounds its true) but are jewish people a discriminative religious people like christians or more like "well I respect your religious ideals I personally don't believe but your a good person and I like you." So which is it? from either standpoint?

2006-10-10 00:08:17 · 6 answers · asked by Desert Falcon83 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I wanna add this before I get mixed signals I meant morely outer discriminative talking bad about certain people/religions to them or freely within earshot and NOT inner so that they say such things inside the home maybe to family or close friends... and fireball ur last part of your answer was very odd lol "White but not jews"? their are white jews but I am assumeing you mean white guys who are non-jewish? actually I dun see how white guys has to fall into the catagory at all

2006-10-10 00:17:21 · update #1

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Jews have gotten an ironic bad rap regarding exclusivism or elitism because of the universality of their beliefs! Allow me to explain...

In Jewish teachings, there's nothing that says you have to be Jewish to "be saved," or avoid an eternity of agonizing torture in the bowels of Hell. There is a notion of a Noachide (as in, relating to Noah) covenant that everyone is supposed to keep. It's not nearly as complex as the 613-commandment based system of Jewish law, but it's an equally valid path to a relationship with G-d, and fortunately, already exists in a number of religions. The laws include, for example, prohibitions against murder and sexual immorality, a ban against animal cruelty, etc. See more on the Noachide Mitzvot (Commandments) here: http://www.aish.com/literacy/judaism123/The_7_Noachide_Laws.asp

There's a small but growing religious movement in fact, of Torah-observant gentiles who don't wish to undergo conversion, but who appreciate the Torah approach to life.

In any event, this conviction that "the righteous of all nations have a share in the world to come" (to quote the authoritative Jewish philosopher Maimonides), combined with the fact that in many ancient societies, a Jew caught proselytizing (seeking converts) would be put to death, Jews, not surprisingly, stopped seeking converts. Today, Jewish outreach is typically aimed at other Jews, who have become estranged from their heritage. This takes precedence over any sort of missionary work because, well, one, there isn't that whole doctrine of all those outside the faith burning in Hell (if you want to talk about discrimination, how about the religions that preach this? Like, I don't know...Christianity and Islam?), and two, it's a higher priority to get our act together as a nation before seeking new Jews!

In any event, why do we have to respect other people's religious ideals? I agree, we should respect everyone's right to HAVE those ideals, but what of the ideals themselves? There are aspects of other religions that I find morally repugnant! To use a controversial example, the doctrine of turn-the-other-cheek (which certainly hasn't been used much by the Church throughout the course of history, but bear with me) sounds like pacifism. Compare this to the Torah's teachings that evil needn't, musn't be tolerated. Imagine if the entire world had followed this teaching to the letter, and extended its neck to the butcher's knife when Hitler declared war on the world (oddly enough, this is what Mahatma Ghandi had proposed was the proper thing for Jews to have done during the war). On the other hand, most religions share a lot of common ground - some form of the golden rule, prohibitions against murder, theft, adultery. The exhortation to be kind and decent to other people. These sort of things, any decent human being can appreciate. But tolerance of other people doesn't mean an appreciation of everything they believe. It is merely a recognition of their worth as a fellow human being, and their right to maintain their beliefs so long as they don't infringe upon the rights of others. Except Scientology. We definitely need to respect the rights of others to their religions, but if you ask me, Scientology is fair game. ;) Moving on...

Now if you mean "discriminative" in the sense of Jews-marrying-other-Jews, I think this is a terrible example. Everybody discriminates when choosing a spouse - and they should. Discrimination isn't inherently bad. Or rather, there's good discrimination and bad discrimination. Bad discrimination would be like, dubbing such and such a race to be inferior, or not hiring someone on account of their race, religion, gender, etc. In other words, those forms of discrimination that are based on ignorance and hatred. But discrimination in the sense of understanding the differences between people and things isn't necessarily negative. To use the aforementioned example of choosing a spouse... some people seek out someone with a certain sense of humor, or a certain level of intelligence. Some seek out a certain type of physical appearance (beauty of course being in the eye of the beholder). And some seek a match based on, among other things, a philosophical and/or spiritual rapport. These are all forms of discrimination, and there's nothing wrong with any of them. It's just using your head. If you're a Christian, and you want to raise a family based on Christian values, it makes perfect sense for you to marry another Christian. And the same goes for any other religion.

There are a lot of libels out there, even today, that claim that Jews look down on non-Jews as somehow inferior or even, G-d forbid, subhuman. Most of these claims are based on mistranslations of passages of Talmud (I've even seen a few that were made up entirely - i.e. they quote books that simply don't exist), no doubt by people who've never so much as seen a tractate of Talmud, or, if they have, probably couldn't read it!

So if what you mean by "are Jewish people discriminative" is "are Jews bigoted?" - I would say absolutely not. Bear in mind that not all Jews reflect the teachings of their faith. Just as you have Christians who act very un-Christian, and Muslims acting un-Muslim (of course, the relationship between the religion Islam, and the political doctrines of Islamism could full another discussion altogether), you'll find Jews acting un-Jewish and perhaps espousing narrow-minded views. In my experience, this has been the exception rather than the rule, and certainly not sufficient to dub Jews in general as "discriminative," which would itself be discriminative. :)

I hope this helps.

2006-10-11 00:17:55 · answer #1 · answered by Daniel 5 · 0 0

Well from my understanding through out history I thought that Jews were the ones who were always being discriminated against. Im a Christian and I just wanted to say that I dont discriminate against people just because I dont agree with their religious view points. I dont say hey I like or dont like you because your religion is different from mine. Im not sure how Jews are when it comes to discrimination I havent really known or interacted with any Jewish people.

2006-10-10 10:15:03 · answer #2 · answered by . 6 · 0 0

I think what your asking is our ideal relationship with non-Jews. First of all, we're supposed to stay seperate from you. Secondly, you are wrong. However, if you follow the 7 Noahide laws, then you do get a reward. They are: No adultery, murder, stealing, eating from an animal before it dies, cursing G-d, the society must set up courts to enforce these, and no idolatry. Islam is not idolotry, Hinduism is, and christianity is a major question.

2006-10-10 10:43:31 · answer #3 · answered by ysk 4 · 0 0

to the actual question:
no moreso than Christians. the most observant and more extreme segments might be a bit picky... but extremely observant christians do the same, and the more "regular" are not like that at all.

so generally its simply a non-issue.

and to the first answer....>>"I know someone who is Jewish and shes very smart and tries to convert my daughter but never goes to church herself. Its crazy and dates whites not Jews.. "<<

I severely doubt they are actually jewish. because neither of those things are generally things accepted by judaism... judaism makes a point that it does NOT evangelize. in fact if you come to a rabbi wanting to convert, they will turn you away a few times... you have to really mean it.

btw most Jews are outwardly caucasian... or close enough to count.

edit for your first added bit...
I can't think of a case of a jewish person being outwardly racist or anything like that whatsoever. and of course you never know whats going on in peoples's heads, but judaism doesn't doctrinate any of that sorta thing, and does not consider itself exclusively correct.

2006-10-10 07:17:31 · answer #4 · answered by RW 6 · 1 2

I know someone who is Jewish and shes very smart and tries to convert my daughter but never goes to church herself. Its crazy and dates whites not Jews..

2006-10-10 07:11:51 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Jews have been discriminators as long as history has been written down

2006-10-10 07:25:28 · answer #6 · answered by icheeknows 5 · 0 5

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