First an appology... then the question...?

Question

I would like to say sorry ahead of time to all those of you who have answered my previous question about the passage in the bible that tells us not to judge others. I was not quite honest in where my question was leading...

Now, for the question.

According to many people who answered this question:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AlVtzt3DWbKDyA3GFIDYMKvzy6IX?qid=20061009204753AAQcwnk

There are a few instances where the bible explicitly tells you not to judge other people.

If you are strong in your religion, and follow the bible, how can you judge gays? How can you answer the question of whether or not gays should be allowed to be married or not if you claim to follow the bible so much?

Your bible might also say that homosexuality is bad (Just goes to show there was hate back then too) so, if I understand the situation, you are saying that it's ok to pick and choose what you follow from the bible?

One says don't judge others, the other says do... odd

Does it not seem strange to you that you are told two completely different things? And then you spread hate towards gays, even though the bible also says to be kind and loving?

It is so wierd to me how two-faced people can be when defending their religion...

Aren't I cute? Why, because I point out a contradiction that many people follow blindly? Because I point out how they can pretend to be so caring and loving and yet spread nothing but hate and fear about gays and lesbians because they're different?

Have you considered that christians were once, and still are to some extent, hated because of the fact that they were different? Many left europe and founded the United States because they did not have freedom of religion. Now they will turn around and take away someone elses freedom of choice.

It all seems so painfully obvious to me, yet those who are guilty of doing this, cannot seem to see it.

Marsha, it's all good and stuff that you can quote from the bible, but your answer completely dodged my question, just like religious people do so often.

Why is it ok to judge gays? Why is it ok to spread hate against them? Please don't tell me that your fellow religious types don't spread hatred of gays, you and I are both above that little lie.

Why not revise your answer and actually answer my question?

Also, to clarify something, I am not gay, I am a happily married man with a great wife and a great daughter.

I simply do not stand for prejudism, no matter who it is against, and gays seem to be taking the brunt of it. It is not right, it shouldn't be considered right, and people need to wake up and figure out why they are so hateful.

Honey, that is so far from the truth that it is laughable.

When you go to the polls and choose no on gay marriage, you are most definately judging.

You are taking it upon yourself to decide what someone else who has nothing to do with you or your belief can do with his/her life. If that is not judging, I don't know what is. Wake up.

You contradict yourself.

Well, I guess thats about it, eh? No more answers coming in. I have to say I am really not all that surprised I didn't get many replies.

The ones I did get, not a single one of them answered my question. No one was able to explain why it is ok to promote hatred towards gays and lesbians, which so many religious people do, every day. No one was able to tell me exactly what gives them the right to judge how these people are allowed to live their lives. No one even touched upon the point I made that america was founded because people wanted to escape religious oppression and now they themselves oppress others.

I am very disapointed with the results I got with this little experiment. Honestly.

Answer 1

I think it's true. You are always told not to judge, and you are also to told to love one another and to be forgiving. I think that if you are judging, not just with the gays, that is going against your beliefs.

Answer 2

There's really two complimentary standards used in evaluating sinful human behavior, and suprisingly, what the Bible says has little to do with it.

Objectively: Homosexuality is a sin because it is against the natural law that God has written on the heart of every human being, and it is a sin because God's Church, which has full authority in such matters, declares it to be a sin.

Subjectively: It's impossible for anyone but God to judge the circumstances of the sinner, or the severity of the sin, or any person's actual guilt or culpability for the sin, so only God is truly able to judge whether any sinner is likely to end up in hell, as a result.

Based on this, we know with certainty what type of actions are contrary to God's will, that we should avoid doing them, and that some sort of severe penalty will usually result, if we don't.

Then all we can do is try to repent, and trust in the mercy of God.

It's not easy.

Answer 3

What do you mean by "judging" somebody? I guess there's a fine line between judging someone and pointing out to someone nicely when someone is in error according to what the bible says.

A long time ago I had a friend who told me he thought he was gay. I told him my opinion, but, I also didn't judge him, and he was okay with my response.

Jesus pointed out to lots of people what they were doing wrong. Most of the times he did this was when people asked him a question, confessed to him, or questioned his motives.

We are all going to be held accountable for our actions at judgement day.

Answer 4

This Scripture Matthew 7:1 has been taken out of context and misused.If you look at in context, you will see the real meaning of it. The full context is Matthew 7:1 - 5. What Jesus is teaching is that you can judge or tell someone they are not living up to Biblical standards, only when you are living up to Biblical standards yourself. How can you tell someone he is living wrong, when in reality you are living wrong, too. SOme of us call this hypocrisy. We need to live by example, and that example is Jesus.

Answer 5

it says do not judge others. at the same time, the passage that says being gay is wrong, if you read the whole epistle, is about guidelines for a xtian, things to do, things not to do. and you can still be loving, since a xtian can have gay friends, and not be gay. a good xtian nedds to let others be how they are since we're all prone to sin, we're nobody bto tell anyone whqt to do. only if a person asks us what to do, and really, the only thing to do when an overwhelming situation arises and you want to get out, is pray. so dont condemn anybody, just pray that everybody wants to follow god, and god takes care of the rest.

if god takes care of the rest, thats why its none of our business if people are gay or not, just enjoy their company and love them. thats why we cannot judge;

Answer 6

you are simply confusing judgment with telling one the truth.....when we are asked a question such as this we go by what the Bible says and that is that Jesus says it is an abomination to him to be effeminate ,a liar, a homosexual, among other things.....so we tell you that and that you will be judged by that scripture too if you do any of those things in open sin knowing it is wrong and still practicing that sin in rebellion towards Gods teachings.....now judgment is when I express my own opinion to you of how I feel about it and give you my own feelings instead of what I know the bible tells me......we are to tell those the truth and I will not apologize for telling you or anyone else what the Bible says.....I am not judging you but simply answering your question....I am not hating you by answering your question either.......I am not the one asking these types of questions.....you are.....now I know you will get mad but if you don't want the truth of what the Bible teachings then why ask?.

Answer 7

Why must we always twist the bible to fit our lifestyle or situation? Judge ye not lest ye be judged! I can't jusge a gay or a straight person. I don't have a heaven nor a hell to put anyone in. Why would I want to? God is your secret judge and that is that. Some Christians aren't all Christians remember that. I apologize that you have been mistreated by some people, but I don't know you therefore don't stereotype me for "some Christians" God hates sin.....not people.

Answer 8

First of all, I do not believe that I answered your other question or questions. I also do not hate homosexuals or any other sinner for that matter, including myself as I am also a sinner.

I do hate the sin, and homosexuality is a sin to God, and the bible states that it is a sin. God states that we cannot condone or accept sin, ours or anothers. So, I cannot condone your behavior any more than I can condone my own behavior when it comes to disobeying the word of God.

God gave me the right to marry a man, not a woman.
God gave me the ability to lie, cheat, steal among many other bad desires, but he never gave me the right to do any of these things.
Lust for another of the same sex is a desire, but not an acceptable desire to God. We are not to accept sinful behavior, and homosexual behavior is sinful. Sin is disobedience to Gods word, and Gods own word is that homosexual behavior is in disobedience to him.

I do not judge your sin, God does, but I am allowed to hate that sin as much as I am allowed and told to hate my own sin. We are all sinful creatures. God loves us all, but he still hates our disobedience and that is what he will judge.

And yes, there are things that we can judge. The difference is in what we judge. None can tell you that you are going to Hell. That is a judgement that we are not allowed to make.

What I can do is judge behavior. It would be more along the lines of discernment. I can decide (judge or discern) whom I allow my children to be around, or who I fellowship with. I can decide if I want to do business with a certain individual or not and so on. I can make these judgements based on my perception of a person heart towards God.

Answer 9

The better tactic against gay bashers is to remind them that Biblically, remarriage after divorce is adultery, which means anyone who divorces and remarries is "living in adultery" just as gays are "living in sodomy". Ask such people if they think Jesus has made such a legalistic distinction as well.

Answer 10

first of all, the Bible teaches no form of hatred on any level - says to hate the sin, love the sinner

anything contrary to God and His direction is what He has stated it is - Sin........notice there is an I in the middle of the word, that is because we are all guilty of it

lost still? directions are easily found in the Word

see man can argue endlessly on any of these type topics but none of our words change fact nor history

there is specific accounts of homosexuality in the Bible and the reprocussions to those who insisted in following ...... like any other direct refusal to accept His instruction

may you find the peace for which you truly search!