Anti-Choicers: What's worse: Abortion clinics or Fertility Clinics?

Question

If life starts at conception, as the prolife movement states, then fertility clinics are the site of more "killing" than abortion clinics.

if you're not aware, a much larger number of embryos are fertilized than a couple can use (average 13) in these clinics because of the high probability that they won't survive. And the leftovers are discarded. Even those "moral" people who refuse to have them discarded pay to keep their leftovers frozen forever... so even then the idea should be monstrous... keeping a "life" in suspended animation indefinitely.

Does God have a waiting room? Does the bible address this issue in all it's wisdom and prediction of the future?

Answer 1

Whos choice is it? Not the Father! Not the families! Sure as heck not the baby's!!!!!!! So yes we are against the baby not having a choice. you can call it, anti-anti-choice.

In case you havent been keeping up in the news, that is what President Bush has been against in stem cell research: the discarding of embryos whether it happens at a research lab or at a fertility clinic.

As for when God gives the individual their spirit, who knows. But i can tell you the Bible without a doubt teaches the fundamental respect for human life and its inherant value; not only to God but should be to other humans. God never meant so-called "doctors" to cut into a woman and kill the baby. And in some cases delivering an almost fully grown baby (partial birth abortion) and outright infanticide which the democrats are trying to revive.

Answer 2

Perhaps by your logic, your parents are guilty of killing you. After all, if it had not been for the conception, which led to your birth, you would not ultimately die.

With regard to fertility clinics, after conception occurs, each embryo can live only so long, just as you can live only so long. The life expectancy of an embryo is much longer in the uterus than it is outside the uterus. Just as the mere conception, which led to your death does not mean your parents killed you, the mere conception in a fertility clinic, which leads to the death of an embryo does not mean that those who caused the conception are guilty of killing the embryo.

In the case of abortion, the embryo can survive beyond birth if no intervening causes bring about its death. So actively aborting a fetus could be considered to be killing the fetus.

Answer 3

I understand what your point is. I am pro choice myself and believe that this issue is no ones business other than the persons who are involved. I find it even more maddening that a pro life person would bomb an abortion clinic just to save life. Life being destroyed to save life isn't logical isn't moral isn't anything accept radical. If the pro life person drives a car, gets distracted and kills someone unintentionally, it is still a murder for them because rather than paying attention at a time when life was in the balance they willfully diverted their attention elsewhere. This action caused the death of someone else. The importance of choice and making a personal decision is one that should be left to the individual, no one else has to deal with it in any way. The Bible only says that God knows who you are from the beginning of time, your name has been written in the book forever. Therefore if that is true, then if the person is never born rather it be from miscarriage or abortion, though the life they never had was never ment to be.

Answer 4

we do unlike fertility clinics the two. it truly is in easy terms a query of focusing on the place the main suitable evil is. slicing up and vacuuming out a developed infant is plenty worse than freezing and probably discarding a baby who remains in easy terms some cells, because of the fact contained in the former case, discomfort and suffering are in touch. If we weren't all so keen on enjoying God with the lives of our little ones, issues could be plenty less complicated. A mom would not desire or can no longer save her baby; a pair can not have little ones; a charitable employer delivers a loving and being concerned ecosystem for the mummy to assist her nevertheless the experience; the couple pay all fees and undertake the youngster. that could be so everyday and so human.

Answer 5

Your confusion is caused by not being familiar with the stages of development. An embryo at a fertility clinic is just one cell. A fetus at an abortion clinic is almost human, even having brainwaves.

Answer 6

questions like these should be in parenting?

if God has a waiting room, Bush has an Condo in Hell

both are figments of my imagination, but Bush is much more likely to end up paying for bad kharma than god is to have a 'waiting room'

see also you local physicians and hospices...god is one of us, all of us, in us, and we minister to each other and find it wonderful and awe-full

Values Voters and Moral Majority people often overlook the Bush war on Christians and pregnant women getting killed in Iraq or by Corporations denying people care

god apparently is pro abortion...see the scripture reference, chapter and verse

here is a disgusting "morning after pill" prescribed clearly

(don't forget to read all the rest of the wonderful things in this chapter)

Answer 7

Both. But a fertility clinic promotes life BEGINNING while an abortion clinic ENDS life.
I don't agree with fertility treatment, but I can understand why some people would do it.
I don't agree with abortion, but I can understand why, in some extreme cases, a woman would think it's necessary.

Answer 8

Ive seen a few titles of you in the past few minutes. Im sure you think its murder..

How would you feel if you were raped and became pregnant at 18 years old.
Your still a child, do you think you could care for the unborn child?
Do you think its right for you to keep the child, and would you care for the child as if he was concieved on purpose? Your life would be ruined, school is out of the question, college or university and the chance of getting a good job is out of the question. So than you head to welfare.....

And when the child grows up, how do you think it will make him/her feel that he was not only a mistake, a regret but the result of a rape?

Im not saying im pro choice, im just simply asking you the questions.

Answer 9

Yes read humanae vitae by Pope John Paul 2. Both are equally wrong if even one embryo is purposely destroyed. There is no grey area here.

Answer 10

Here's what the Bible says concerning life before physical birth: "For You formed my inward parts: You wove me in my mother's womb. I will give thanks to You for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are Your works, and my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden fom You, when I was made in secret, and skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth. Your eyes have seen my unformed substance; And in Your book were all written the days that were ordained for me, when as yet there was not one of them." Psalm 139:13-16 In this Psalm David is praising God for the fact that God knows everything about him and is always watching out for him. This knowledge of God about David and about us even precedes our birth.

And also in Jeremiah 1:5 we find, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you..." Then here we find that God has plans for us even before we are a twinkle in our parents eye. So yes, God considers ALL life precious!!!!