was jesus born on the 25th off december,,,?

Question

or was it a pagan day

Answer 1

No body knows when he was actually born.

Answer 2

This is how the December 25th was chosen. In historic Judaism there is a concept called the Integral Age of the Prophets. Here what that means. It was believed that a true prophet would die on the same day that he was conceived in his mother's womb. (Ya, its superstitious but hey, not my fault)

For years Christians would try to determine the exact day of the passover for 33 A.D. but it was difficult because Jews use a lunar calender not a solar one, which means it is different everytime. It is also tricky to figure out. And as you may imagine the Jews weren't exactly going to tell them.

So 2 dates were arrived at. In the western church the day March 25th was determined to be the passover for the year 33 A.D. (the year Jesus was crucified) and in the eastern church they went with April 6th (2 seperate formulae were used which is why 2 different answers were arrived at).

So using this idea of the Integral Age of the Prophets, if Jesus (who Christians believe is a prophet, amongst other things) died on March 25 then he was conceived on March 25th. So when would he have been born? Add 9 months for gestation and, presto, you get December 25th.

Notice though that the eastern church believed it was April 6th. And to this day the eastern churches celebrate Christmas (which they call Candlemas) on January 6th...9 months from April 6th.

That's how it was determined.

To answer the myths. It was NOT the day of the sun god of Rome since 1) the cult of the sun (which was called Sola Invictus) did come about until the 3rd century and Christmas was already being celebrated uniformly over 150 years earlier ; and 2) when Sola Invictus did come into its own its day big day (which was the day of the year when the days actually started getting longer) was December 21st. Switching to the old Julian calender doesn't get you to December 25th either.

Hope that helps and hope it puts to rest a lot of the untruths that are out there.

Answer 3

Since way back before Jesus ever came to the earth their was this very agricultural people. When you plant something in the shade it doesn't grow. Right! So they thought the Sun was God and gave them and the earth life. In the winter they thought the sun God was mad. So a day was set aside to appease the Sun God. December 25, when it started to get really cold. The evergreen was the only thing still living so the decorated it with lights. With a big candle on the top to represent the sun.
The other they thought were lesser gods. Stars
They had a big party gave each other gifts of fruit and nuts and had a drunken orgy and a few months later the summer comes back. They were afraid if they didn't do that the sun wouldn't come back. Here comes Christianity, down to the pagans.
They were afraid not to do it so they just said , OK the sun God is Jesus the son of God and Hench it became Christmas.
Jesus was 33 1/2 years old when he died. He died Passover.
or April So it is most likely he was born in Oct. Since there was no way of proving that, the church just sanctioned that day as his birthday. It was already being celebrated anyway. Read Encarta there is an article all about where Christmas came from.
Do you know that muslims have a similar holiday? Nothing to do with Jesus but a similar holiday.

Answer 4

I don't think anyone really knows the true date of the birth of Jesus and I do believe that December 25th is a pagan day.

Answer 5

According to Matthew’s Gospel, chapters 26 and 27, Jesus was executed on Nisan 14, late in the day of the Jewish Passover that had begun on March 31, 33 C.E. We learn from Luke’s Gospel that Jesus was about 30 years old when he was baptized and began his ministry. (Luke 3:21-23) That ministry lasted three and a half years. Therefore, Jesus was about 33 1/2 years old when he died. He would have turned 34 about October 1, 33 C.E. Luke reports that at the time of Jesus’ birth, shepherds were “living out of doors and keeping watches in the night over their flocks.” (Luke 2:8) Shepherds would not have been out with their flocks in the cold of December, when it may even snow in the vicinity of Bethlehem. But they could have been there with their flocks about October 1, which according to the evidence is when Jesus was born.

It was not until several hundred years after Jesus lived on the earth that people began to commemorate his birth on December 25. But that was not the date of Jesus’ birth, for it evidently took place in October. So why was December 25 chosen? Some who later claimed to be Christian likely “wished the date to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the ‘birthday of the unconquered sun.’” (The New Encyclopædia Britannica) In winter, when the sun seemed weakest, pagans held ceremonies to get this source of warmth and light to come back from its distant travels. December 25 was thought to be the day that the sun began its return. In an effort to convert pagans, religious leaders adopted this festival and tried to make it seem “Christian.”

The Saturnalia also played a part in the choice of December 25. This festival honoring the Roman god of agriculture took place on December 17-24. Feasting, merrymaking, and gift-giving took place during the Saturnalia.

Answer 6

by the description in the bible the shepards were in the fields when they saw the north star, this puts the birth of Jesus in the fall of the year.

the 25th of december is not a pagan holiday exactaly. it is right about the average day for the Winter solstice which is a pagan holiday.

our holidays are based on moon cycles and thus they change every year by a few days. the catholic church put Christmas at that time to make it easier to win converts to their religion. this is the reason that they did the same at easter and halloween.

the holidays being covered up by the church are
Samhien, Yule or winter solstice, and Beltane.

however the Pagand became priests and simply placed their customs into the Christian holidays.

this is why so many things in the christian holiday tradition do not make any sense...the decorating and hideing of eggs, the evergreen tree,,, halloween as a whole....these are all Pagan tradations that have been preserved in Christian holidays..

however today i feel that Christmas is just as important to the christians as Yule is to us, and i encourage them to celebrate it however they wish to. because celebration was the true reason that the winter solstice became such a big holiday. it was the darkest time of the year and people needed something to lift their spirits..the same is true today.

Answer 7

No, examination of Scripture and comparison with what winters in Jerusalem are like will lead anyone to conclude that Jesus was not born in the winter, let alone December.

Christians set Christmas on December 25th as an easy transition for those who celebrated the pagan winter festivals such as Saturnalia and Yule. These festivals were based on the Winter Solstice, which occurs on December 21st.

Answer 8

Jesus was born on 1st March 7B.C.in a place called Mird near a town called Qumran. (Gregorian)
25th December was a pagan day.
The council of Nicea decided when to have christmas, easter and invented the holy trinity (approx. 325A.D.)

Jesus DID NOT die on the cross, records mention Jesus alive in 70A.D. aged 76.

Answer 9

Because we celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25th it is a Christian holiday.

Whether he was really born on that date no longer matters.

Answer 10

Jesus was not born on December 25th. And even if he were, true Christians follow the instructions of Jesus and celebrate the anniversary of his death ONLY. Celebrating anything else would be going against "what is written."

Answer 11

Here is the origin of Christmas:

Saturnalia - it was the feast where the Romans commemorated the dedication of the temple of the god Saturn, which took place on 17 December. During this time it was also customary to decorate trees special offering logs. Over the years Saturnalia expanded to a whole week, and ran through to the 23rd of December. In the vagaring Roman calendar the Winter Solstice (celebration of the birth of the Sun) fell in this period; in imperial times that event was celebrated in honour of Sol Invictus and put on 25 December by emperor Aurelian in 274, after the Saturnalia.

During Saturnalia it was custom to give presents to family and friends, most often in the form of food. Then, on the 25th, they celebrated the birth of the God Mithras (born in a cave via a virgin mother). Mithraism predates Christianity by 15 centuries. Thanks to my pal Rofocal for this last bit of information (regarding the virgin birth) because I didn't know that. But I looked it up and it is part of Mithraism's recorded mythology. :)