There are certain people who believe this and their so-called logic goes as follows.
"Because atheists choose not to believe that,in itself, is a belief.Therefore as they have beliefs they can't be atheist"
The first time I saw this I nearly laughed my c**k off.
Have you ever heard such utter rubbish?
2006-10-09 07:20:52 · 23 answers · asked by rosbif 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
amibovered
That is almost as stupid an argument as the one above.
Atheists do not believe that "matter is a god"
They don't believe in any god of any kind
2006-10-09 08:08:06 · update #1
nomark
Is it a coincidence that an anagram of your CHOSEN pseudonyme is"an Mork"grammatically incorrect as it should be "a Mork".
NANU NANU
2006-10-09 08:33:05 · update #2
I dont believe in santa...But I still get a nosh off her indoors for xmas!
I dont believe in the tooth fairy...But Ive still got teeth!
I dont believe in God or J.C.......But I still feel me nuts in the bath!...So I must be real!!
2006-10-09 07:26:19 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
That is actually a philosophical point of discussion. Atheists agree on a concept of God so they do have some belief, even if it is only sharing an idea with believers. This does not mean that they believe that God exists, but they do acknowledge the viability of the idea.
The quote above is incorrect however, as the definition of Atheist is one who do not believe in the existence of God, not one who does not believe in anything.
2006-10-09 17:20:42 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Atheists believe that the stuff of the universe i.e. 'matter' is a god.
Since they imbue the universe itself with all the attributes
that religions normally associate with a Supernatural, Creator God. It can not be that they believe in no God, it's more that they believe in a different god. (The intelligent universe).
They could do like many pagans and use idols of wood or stone to represent their material god. Then at least they could pay some sort of homage to that which is greater than themselves, that which brought them into being.
So the Bible was right when it said 'only a fool says in his heart there is no God'. In other words it is impossible to be a true atheist. So atheists do not exist.
2006-10-09 14:54:01 · answer #3 · answered by Am I bovered? 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
On an interesting side note, thanks to the result of Godel's Incompleteness Theorums, predicate logic (and first order & second order) logic systems that can define arithmetic systems cannot be both consistent and closed. That is, either some paradoxes must be allowed for, or, you cannot fully proof the system.
Thus, my own existence is unprovable because in order to 'prove' it, I must accept certain axioms, and axioms are by definition, the unproven facts upon which logic begins. I experience myself, but I must accept my 'experience' as though it were an axiom. Exterior to myself, I cannot prove my experience.
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Also, the Cogito (Cogito Ergo Sum, "I think, therefore, I am") was sunk my Jean Paul Sartre. Took three hundred years, but the Cogito proves nothing, it turns out.
2006-10-09 14:28:07 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Incorrect. Athiest choose NOT to believe in a god or gods. They may beleive in something else, a common conscienceness where everyone is one for example. everyone believes in something, even if its just his local football team being the best, you dont have to be religious to be a "believer"
2006-10-09 14:27:21 · answer #5 · answered by Ganymede 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Brings back fond old memories! I came up with somethign like this back in 1990, and annoyed the heck out of my atheist friends for a day or two with it.
I grew out of it.
2006-10-09 14:51:32 · answer #6 · answered by Smiley 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
They're twisting language to suit their own agenda (which proves that either they have no language skills themselves or assume that the rest of us don't).
atheist does not mean a disbelief in belief, it means a disbelief in god/s.
I believe in Coke, I believe in cheese sandwiches, I believe in bluejeans. I also believe in some intangibles, like "love", "intelligence" and "altruism". I EVEN believe in THE VALUE OF some things that obviously do not exist, like "Faeries", "King Arthur" and the fact that the moon just might be made of "green cheese", because playing with whacky ideas can teach you something.
I do not believe in that guy with the holes in his hands and his feet. (I guess he had to give up walking on water after that, huh - kept sinking?)
The nutters have libraries full of word-twisting documents - in the West the most prevalant one is known as "the bible".
2006-10-09 14:39:14 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
Am I bovered? ..... Brilliant answer! you definitely deserve best answer for this.
I agree, so-called atheists think the material universe created itself, and the inherent potential to create everything therein.
If that's not a god
I'm an alien.
2006-10-09 15:08:47 · answer #8 · answered by A.M.D.G 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
This is the sort of tripe produced daily and even hourly by religious cranks of all denominations and creeds, it is time these people faded away or committed suicide as they seen to believe the world is going to end soon why don't they do us all a favour and at least make sure it ends for them
2006-10-09 14:51:40 · answer #9 · answered by Stephen P 4 · 0⤊ 3⤋
That is rubbish, I am Christian and am very well aware of the idiocy of that, but how about this.
GOD doesn't believe in atheists.
2006-10-09 14:32:19 · answer #10 · answered by JaimeM 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋