Holy trinity problem how can 1+1+1=1?

Question

shuodn't it be 3

does this confuse anybody else?

Answer 1

First of all, here is a clean little joke that disproves the Trinity:

Moses, Jesus, and another guy were out playing golf one day.

Moses pulled up to the tee and drove a long one. It landed in the
fairway but rolled directly toward a water trap. Quickly Moses raised
his club, the water parted and it rolled to the other side, safe and sound.

Next, Jesus strolled up to the tee and hit a nice long one directly
toward the same water trap. It landed directly in the center of the pond
and kind of hovered over the water. Jesus casually walked out on the
pond and chipped it up onto the green.

The third guy got up and sort of randomly whacked the ball. It headed
out over the fence and into on-coming traffic on a nearby street. It
bounced off a truck and hit a nearby tree. From there it bounced onto
the roof of a nearby shack and rolled down into the gutter, down the
downspout, out onto the fairway and right toward the same pond. On the
way to the pond, it hit a little stone and bounced out o ver the water,
onto a lily pad where it rested quietly. Suddenly, a very large bullfrog
jumped up on the lily pad and snatched the ball into his mouth. Just
then, an eagle swooped down and grabbed the frog and flew away. As they
pass over the green, the frog squealed with fright and dropped the ball,
which bounced right into the hole for a beautiful hole in one.

Moses turned to Jesus and said, "I hate playing with your Dad.

What did Moses say? He and Jesus were playing golf with Jesus's Dad or Father, if Jesus is God, how could both of them be playing golf with Moses? Jesus is the Son, Dad is the Almighty God, it is just as simply as that.

1+1+1+=1 I know it should be "3", but in this case it is "1"

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matthew 24:36) How do these words confirm that Jesus is not Almighty God?

Jesus says that the Father knows more than the Son does. If Jesus were part of Almighty God, however, he would know the same facts as his Father. So, then, the Son and the Father cannot be equal. Yet, some will say: ‘Jesus had two natures. Here he speaks as a man.’ But even if that were so, what about the holy spirit? If it is part of the same God as the Father, why does Jesus not say that it knows what the Father knows?

1st of all Jesus said: He pointed to God as the Source of his life, saying, “I live because of the Father.” According to the context, this meant that his life resulted from or was caused by his Father, even as the gaining of life by dying men would result from their faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice. Joh 6:56, 57.

Jesus’ being called the “only-begotten Son” (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18) does not mean that the other spirit creatures produced were not God’s sons, for they are called sons as well. (Ge 6:2, 4; Job 1:6) However, by virtue of his being the sole direct creation of his Father, the firstborn Son was unique, different from all others of God’s sons, all of whom were created or begotten by Jehovah through that firstborn Son. So “the Word” was Jehovah’s “only-begotten Son” in a particular sense,

Jesus is also “Mighty God” and “Eternal Father.” This does not mean that he usurps the authority and position of Jehovah, who is “God our Father.” (2 Corinthians 1:2) “He [Jesus] . . . gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3;


Rev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, why did God have to give the revelation to Jesus, if he is God? .

Does the Bible teach that none of those who are said to be included in the Trinity is greater or less than another, that all are equal, that all are almighty? Mark 13:32, RS: “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Of course, that would not be the case if Father, Son, and Holy Spirit were coequal, comprising one Godhead. And if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?)

John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven.

A person who is really seeking to know the truth about God is not going to search the Bible hoping to find a text that he can construe as fitting what he already believes. He wants to know what God’s Word itself says. He may find some texts that he feels can be read in more than one way, but when these are compared with other Biblical statements on the same subject their meaning will become clear. It should be noted at the outset that most of the texts used as “proof” of the Trinity actually mention only two persons, not three; so even if the Trinitarian explanation of the texts were correct, these would not prove that the Bible teaches the Trinity.

Answer 2

No, 1=1=1

Answer 3

The doctrine of the Trinity is indeed a challenging doctrine that has puzzled the minds of ALL people from the dawn of Christianity. But the Christian Church can do nothing less than affirm it becuase even though you will not find the word "Trinity" in the Bible, its truth is taught in its pages:

Travel with me for a brief moment and let us trace this doctrine (very very briefly):

* Unity or One-ness of the Godhead:
The one-ness of God is a central truth Christianity inherited from Judaism vis-à-vis the Old Testament. Israel had to learn that there is but one Being deserving the name “God” and His indivisibility is proclaimed in Israel’s ancient confession – the Shema: “Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!” (Deut. 6: 4). Thus, God is “one” and by this is meant that there is but one true God, whose divine nature is indivisible and undivided.

* OT Intimations to the Plurality of the Godhead:
The same Scriptures that teach the one-ness of God, also intimates His tri-unity.
(1) There are intimations of the plurality of the Godhead in the Old Testament. Example: In Genesis 1, the word “God” is in the plural: Elohim. Also the statement: “Let us make man in our image.”
(2) The “Lord” is distinguished from the “Lord” in several passages (Gen. 19: 24; Hos. 1: 7; Zech. 3: 2).
(3) In Isaiah 48: 16, God (presumably the Son) is distinguished from the “Lord God” and “His Spirit.”
(4) The Messiah (Jesus) is referred to as the eternal Son of God - a clear claim to deity (Ps. 2: 7).
(5) The Holy Spirit is distinguished from God, the Father (Gen 1: 1, 2; 6: 3; Is. 40: 13).

* The New Testament Evidence:
Traditionally, the evidences demonstrating the truth of the
Trinitarian doctrine are arranged along two lines:

(A) General Allusions to the Trinity:
Several passages in the NT make sense only if we assume the plurality of the Godhead. Notable examples are:
(1) At the baptism of Jesus, a voice from heaven presumably the Father’s, declared Jesus as His Son; then the Spirit descended
upon Him in the form of a dove (Matt. 3: 16ff).
(2) The disciples were told to baptize “in the name (singular) of the father and the Son and the Holy Spirit” (Matt. 28: 19)

(B) Demonstrable proofs of the respective deity of the Son and the Holy Spirit along with the Father:

(1) The Father is God (Jn. 6: 27; Rom. 1: 7; Gal. 1: 1; etc.)
(2) The Son is God (Jn. 1: 1, 5; 8: 58; 17: 5, 24; Heb. 1: 11ff.; Col. 1: 6; ; Heb. 1: 10; Matt. 9: 2, 6; Lk. 7: 47ff; Jn. 5: 25 – 29; 6: 39ff.; etc... there are soooo many passages that assign powers, privileges and characteristics proper only to God to Jesus Christ)
(3) The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 28: 25ff.; Heb. 3: 7; 2 Cor. 3: 17, 18; Heb. 9: 14; 1 Cor. 2: 10; 2 Pet. 1: 21; etc...)

In light of the Scriptural evidence, it is clear why the Church was compelled to conclude that although there is but one true God, there are three distinct Persons that we must recognize as God. The doctrine of the Trinity thus became a necessary formulation.

Now I submit that GOD is a Being so totally and absolutely "other" - that is to say, so different from us or our own experience. We cannot understand a Being who is One in Essence yet Three Persons.

Answer 4

Many religious people say that Jesus is God. Some claim that God is a Trinity. According to this teaching, “the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God.” It is held that the three “are co-eternal and co-equal.” (The Catholic Encyclopedia) Are such views correct?

Jehovah God is the Creator. (Revelation 4:11) He is without beginning or end, and he is almighty. (Psalm 90:2) Jesus, on the other hand, had a beginning. (Colossians 1:15, 16) Referring to God as his Father, Jesus said: “The Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28) Jesus also explained that there were some things neither he nor the angels knew but that were known only by his Father.—Mark 13:32.

Moreover, Jesus prayed to his Father: “Let, not my will, but yours take place.” (Luke 22:42) To whom was Jesus praying if not to a superior Personage? Furthermore, it was God who resurrected Jesus from the dead, not Jesus himself. (Acts 2:32) Obviously, the Father and the Son were not equal before Jesus came to the earth or during his earthly life. What about after Jesus’ resurrection to heaven? First Corinthians 11:3 states: “The head of the Christ is God.” In fact, the Son will always be in subjection to God. (1 Corinthians 15:28) The Scriptures therefore show that Jesus is not God Almighty. Instead, he is God’s Son.

The so-called third person of the Trinity—the holy spirit—is not a person. Addressing God in prayer, the psalmist said: “If you send forth your spirit, they are created.” (Psalm 104:30) This spirit is not God himself; it is an active force that he sends forth or uses to accomplish whatever he wishes. By means of it, God created the physical heavens, the earth, and all living things. (Genesis 1:2; Psalm 33:6) God used his holy spirit to inspire the men who wrote the Bible. (2 Peter 1:20, 21) The Trinity, then, is not a Scriptural teaching. “Jehovah our God is one Jehovah,” says the Bible.—Deuteronomy 6:4

Answer 5

Some people argue that it is not 1+1+1 but it is 1x1x1=1
Using this logic it would be possible to extend the number of gods to any extend, 1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1x1 = 1 , so all polytheist can now claim they are monotheist

Another thing, people before Jesus never knew Trinity, then why is essential for those after Jesus to believe in it ? Jesus never claimied divinity, concept of Trinity was created much later after him.

Answer 6

I don't know how many time I have answered similar questions. I hope you won't be confused anymore :-)
you're right!!! it should be 3, one in purpose, not one in substance. Otherwise, how can Jesus pray to His Father? or even His Father's voice be heard from heaven when Jesus was baptized? or how can the Holy Ghost descend upon Him after He is baptized? How can Steven in the New Testament gets to see the Son on the right hand side of the Father in a vision?

God, the Son and the Holy Spirit are three separate beings with different roles, one in purpose. They make the Godhead. You can read this understand it clearly:

... I would that ye should understand that God himself shall come down among the children of men, and shall redeem his people.

2 And because he dwelleth in flesh he shall be called the Son of God, and having subjected the flesh to the will of the Father, being the Father and the Son—

3 The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son—

4 And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth.

5 And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the Father, being one God, suffereth temptation, and yieldeth not to the temptation, but suffereth himself to be mocked, and scourged, and cast out, and disowned by his people.

6 And after all this, after working many mighty miracles among the children of men, he shall be led, yea, even as Isaiah said, as a sheep before the shearer is dumb, so he opened not his mouth.

7 Yea, even so he shall be led, crucified, and slain, the flesh becoming subject even unto death, the will of the Son being swallowed up in the will of the Father.

8 And thus God breaketh the bands of death, having gained the victory over death; giving the Son power to make intercession for the children of men—

9 Having ascended into heaven, having the bowels of mercy; being filled with compassion towards the children of men; standing betwixt them and justice; having broken the bands of death, taken upon himself their iniquity and their transgressions, having redeemed them, and satisfied the demands of justice.

The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.

23 A man may receive the Holy Ghost, and it may descend upon him and not tarry with him.

Answer 7

Einstein says the light beam from a headlight on the front of a rocket ship that's already travelling at the speed of light, won't exceed the speed of light.

How can that be?

There are many things in the universe that defy explanation.

With God, all three persons consist of the same godly essence, have the same powers, and are eternally united in some way.

That's how we can say the triune God is truly one.

For a better explanation, ask God when you see him. Until then, accept it on faith.

Answer 8

With God, all things are possible.

Just to name a few of the persons that I am:
+ A husband
+ A father
+ A son
+ A brother
+ An uncle
+ A cousin
+ A nephew

Surely God can be much more

Christians accept that God has not revealed everything to our little human minds. We are okay with a little mystery. It makes life much more interesting.

With love in Christ.

Answer 9

it is 3.

Answer 10

yes...the base of Gods chosen religion CANNOT be confusing and so condradicting, no matter what explanantion is used!

God is ONE not 3! How can Jesus be son of God yet be God at same time? How can God even have a son?!! Why would God be in need of any son or anyone for that matter?!

Please click the following link to see that ISLAM says God is ONE and ONE ONLY...and why YOU should save yourself and become a Muslim: http://www.troid.org/audio/islaamicinfo/islaamingeneral/thepurposeoflife/bemuslim.htm

EDIT: also know that in Islam, God the Creator is not likened to His creation, so we dont try to understand God by comparing Him to us!!! We understand Him throuhj the things He has told us about Himself...