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Notably, even desperate circumstances don't make a lawless act moral. Proverbs 6:30-31 says, "Men do not despise a thief if he steals to satisfy hunger when he is starving. Yet if he is caught, he must pay sevenfold, though it costs him all the wealth of his house."Illegal aliens rightfully should face a very tough penalty, even if driven to lawbreaking for understandable reasons.Second, the law in Old Testament Israel required resident aliens to assimilate. They were to adapt to Israel's ways, not impose their own. For instance, Deuteronomy 16:9-15 requires all residents to observe the Feast of Weeks and the Feast of Booths. This includes foreigners.Third God ordains civil government. Earthly authorities are his agents to restrain evil, protect the innocent, and punish the wrongdoer.

Romans 13:1-7 describes the divine ordination of civil authorities. It reads in part, "The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted. … "

Civil governments are part of God's common grace to protect people in a fallen, sinful world. It's why we appropriately owe allegiance to governing authorities of this world. It's also why courts of law assess punishment for lawbreaking, rather than mob rule or a tyrant's whim. This is a characteristic under common grace, the rule of law. Scripture passages sometimes referenced in connection with immigration actually speak more to immigrant policy than immigration policy. These are verses such as Leviticus 19:33-34 and Exodus 22:21. The latter passage reads, "Do not mistreat an alien or oppress him, for you were aliens in Egypt."

Such verses call for fairness toward aliens and strangers, the same as how other passages say to treat widows and orphans. Importantly, these passages address treatment of aliens once they are in a country. They don't say anything about the criteria or the process by which aliens originally gained admittance into the nation.

2006-10-08 08:00:58 · 12 answers · asked by Zoe 4 in Politics & Government Immigration

angela R whose laws does Jesus obey and where will does get them from? Imposing oneself on another society is not a victimless crime. It causes harmful consequences. It is immoral. It breaks or undermines shalom, God's peace that has already been disturbed in this fallen world.

AMEN

2006-10-08 08:30:16 · update #1

Yes angela R , violence comes in mysterious ways it's wonders to perform, including verbal. But you'd know that kind of mind game, wouldn't you? Of course you would.Illegal aliens "simply desire a better life, and are willing to risk their lives in striving for it. … If there were no border then who could object to what they do? It is the fact of a border, a political invention, that makes their action wrong."

2006-10-08 08:45:20 · update #2

Mendi8a ask your pastor about George Bush . Yes The Bible Clearly States Obey Government and It's Laws. Illegal aliens have to abide by these laws too. So Now Mendi8a ,You are saying the 9-11 attacks are O.K.And America should just did what then ? Why want your Mexico supply any troops to any cause in the world. instead of demanding the world wait on it hand and foot. Fox is poof the devil is alive and well

2006-10-08 09:34:44 · update #3

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Because the modern Church is infested with all kinds of liberals, leftwingers and other assorted deviants. I left the Church a long time ago. Unless they clean up the place and remove the freaks, I won't be coming back.

2006-10-08 08:09:23 · answer #1 · answered by college_republicans_club 2 · 1 1

Republicanism used to be staying away from control of our people. But liberalism took a strong stand on things like gay marriage, etc... So those that were alienated by these views had only one other party to go to... Republican. So how Christianity and Republicanism have mixed. It's difficult to see a difference between the Religious Right and the Basic Right... which is sad.

A lot of Conservative ideas have merged with Christians and they then feel like their religion is not Christianity anymore but Conservative Christianity. I'm not sayign Christianity is Liberal... I'm just saying that modern Republicans have a hard time convincing me they're religious.

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"Yeah, Jesus was such a conformist right? Bet he would have hated the illegals too."

Yes... Jesus hates illegals. Just like he hated Judas who betrayed him... oh wait.. no he didn't! He forgave Judas. He turned the other damned cheek. Unlike you who claims to know him so well. Read your bible!

2006-10-08 08:06:47 · answer #2 · answered by ? 5 · 2 1

ok, here goes...
How many believe that George W Bush was ordained by god, and that any laws he proposes and our congress passes are the word of God? What about the war? So how can you twist it like God says we must keep out other countries?

And the other passages state that we should treat immigrants fairly...so how does that go along with your theory that we should kick out all illegal immigrants and block off the borders???

2006-10-08 08:54:28 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

You have already asked this question....Now let me ask you a couple of questions....

If Jesus were alive today, what would he think of an illegal? Would he reject him, because of his status? Would he want him stoned and put to death, because he came to this country without papers? Would he send him to hell for simply being an alien in a foriegn country? Weren't the Jews aliens all there lives and without a homeland, and did he comdemn them for that? Jesus, himself was homeless....Are you without sin and have NEVER broken the law? I think you know the answer....

"Civil governments are part of God's common grace to protect people in a fallen, sinful world" and so I suppose slavery and abortion were also part of God's common grace to protect people in a fallen, sinful world?

2006-10-08 08:17:25 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

Well if you are an American then you know that this country is set up to separate Church and State - Church has no claim to anything that the Country is debating. Personally you can - but it's not a public view

2006-10-08 08:05:27 · answer #5 · answered by katjha2005 5 · 3 1

Please keep separation of Church and State!
The Bible is not the court of Civil Law.
It establishes God's Law not Man's law.

You should not forget what your master taught!
Lev 17:19 Love thy neighbor!
Matthew and Luke same quote.

apparently you have separate values-- But yours not God.
God says to Love and Forgive.

Let Government take care of the three branches-Leg-Jud-Exe.

You are to sow the Gospel- Preach and teach God's word.

Or preach and teach politics.

Man cannot serve two master- God and Mannon.

2006-10-08 08:15:18 · answer #6 · answered by cork 7 · 1 1

You shall not oppress an alien; you well know how it feels to be an alien, since you were once aliens yourselves in the land of Egypt. (Exodus 23:9)

The émigré Holy Family of Nazareth, fleeing into Egypt, is the archetype of every refugee family. Jesus, Mary and Joseph, living in exile in Egypt to escape the fury of an evil king, are, for all times and all places, the models and protectors of every migrant, alien and refugee of whatever kind who, whether compelled by fear of persecution or by want, is forced to leave his native land, his beloved parents and relatives, his close friends, and to seek a foreign soil. (Exsul Familia, Pope Pius XII, 1952)

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" (The Statue of Liberty)

The earth, this country, everything we have are gifts from God, which we are called to share with our brothers and sisters in Christ.

With love in Christ.

2006-10-08 17:51:53 · answer #7 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 2 1

Yeah, Jesus was such a conformist right? Bet he would have hated the illegals too.

Richard head.

2006-10-08 08:05:51 · answer #8 · answered by airmonkey1001 4 · 2 2

The Holy Bible does not contain the word illegal ( I think )

2006-10-08 08:04:47 · answer #9 · answered by SKG R 6 · 3 1

Jesus was pretty conservative.I think he would have slapped 'em upside the noggin and sent those varmints packin'.

2006-10-08 08:09:21 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

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