martial arts; judo?

Question

im thinking to take judo classes but ive got question first...
is judo really work at streetfight?
can i win a fight against opponent who is a kickboxer?
which is better in a streetfight..judo or kickboxing?
what advantages do judo have against other martial arts style?

Answer 1

Despite the literal meaning of judo being "the gentle way", competition judo is one the roughest and most demanding of sports.

Judo emphasizes a free-style sparring called randori as one of its main forms of training. Half the combat time is spent sparring on the ground, called ne-waza, and the other half standing up, called tachi-waza. Sparring, albeit within safety rules, is considered to be much more effective than only practicing techniques, since using full-strength develops the muscles and cardio-vascular system on the physical side of things, and it develops strategy and reaction time on the mental side of things.


Due to their knowledge in ne-waza/grappling and tachi-waza/standing-grappling, various accomplished judo practitioners have also competed in mixed martial arts matches.

Answer 2

In my opinion, there are a lot of good answers. Nick makes good points even if he does come off angry. Fitforlife has very good points (as do others). To win a streetfight, you have to survive... that is winning. The art you practice the most practical on is the one that work the best for you. If you study Judo (grappling) or Kickboxing (mainly striking) you will increase your chances. Both are physically demanding, both teach timing, both spar (or should), and both recommend working out with wieghts and cario. I, like, others recommend learning more than one art. Judo is like wrestling and keep in mind there are different styles of Judo. Kickboxing also has different styles so look out there. Check out the schools in your area as the instructor will have a large impact on what you learn and such.
Slightly off topic. It is mentioned that Thai Kickboxing is the best version. I would say that that is probably true. I think boxing and american kickboxing teaches better punches... of course boxing does. This once again goes to, take what is best from styles you learn to make yourself better.
I see kata gets brought up again... I believe it has a place in training, maybe 10-20% of training, definately not 40-50% unless you are training form forms competition. Kata/form teaches your body to move a certain way... you do not do a kata in a fight. It does allow you to practice when no one else is around. Weight training is useful, heck necessary, unless you try to bulk up like a bodybuilder. However, that is extreme. Strength and endurance training is great for martial arts. I have not seen someone that trained to get stronger get slower, btw. That is ridiculous. Look at the sprinters in track... they have the bigger muscles then say the distance runner. OK, I'm way off subject.
Check out what is in your area, attedend a few classes, then make the call. Ask yourself, what do I want to do first, grapple or a striking art. We could tell you all day this art or that art. IF the art suggested is taught by a bad instructor with bad students, you won't be getting what you paid for. If a good art is taught by a great instrutor, then you'll benefit even more.
Best of luck, thanks for reading my off topic stuff.

Answer 3

fit for life has a very good answer, if a fight on the street, or anywhere breaks out, there are NO RULES. Meaning you do what's necessary to stay safe and come out alive.

And someone who wants to take whatever it is you have will do exactly whatever it takes to get it from you, and often you need to have the same mindset, but Martial Arts also teaches restraint, meaning you do not have to kill your opponent to survive only subdue them enough to get away.

Judo has it's strengths if a fight goes to the ground because the individual that trains in this discipline or any other "ground game" or ground fighting discipline will be more comfortable.

as far as kickboxing goes against a judo practitioner, the judo fighter will take some hits (as will anyMartial Artist from ANY discipline) but he'll know how to bring the opponent down and physically wear the opponent down and either submit the opponent or (and hopefully this will never happens) choke the opponent out.

There is NO one Martial Art better than another, they ALL have their strengths and their weaknesses, but to become a more rounded Martial Artist, you have to train in both the aspects of being on your feet, and then if you happen to find yourself on the ground during a fight.

Answer 4

I have to side with Nick, but as a 2d Dan Black Belt in Judo, and also an Expert in Krav Maga, no one martial arts is your success for hard core thugs! But how many fights start off fairly face to face....5% on the street; how many fights start with being grabbed, or sucker punched......65%; and how many fights are in a crowded area where you don't have no idea who initiated the attack or who is the good or bad guy....30%. So, first to survive you got to be physically tough and also mentaly smart. Second, all these "Asian" martial arts tricks do not work against someone who spent 10 years behind bars and pumped iron, so you have to be hard, and train without any emotion. Third, as Nick said, any grappling art is almost guareented to cause great pain, etc., etc. On the street there are NO RULES. Now you got to ask yourself are you the type of person who can put your fingers under a collar bone and break it...are you the type of person who can put both thumbs in a "punks" eyes, can you choke someone out.....now, I grew up on the docks of San Pedro, Calif and Long Beach...and a fight on the street is nothing like Chuck Norris fighting Bruce Lee...there are some born "absolute" strong and mean people out there, and the crminal ones who you will face are either a joke, or they will try and hurt you. Now let's talk about training...the time your going to spend on these "Kata's" (forms) should be used to contact sparring, grappling, etc. If you can take a hit, your opponent may not be able to! To survive on the street means you can take physical abuse, and have the will power to survive to the end, and as long as you can breath...you can fight. All martial arts have practical and non-practical techniques and Judo (combat type) and not tournament has some great techniques...but so does Ju-Jitsu, etc., etc.

Any martial arts training is better than no martial arts training...but don't leave the weights untouched..your going to need them!

Answer 5

I think Japanese Jujutsu is a excellent striking martial art to complement Judo. The reasoning is farily obvious, Judo came from JJ. JJ has the same strategy as Judo basically, submissions. JJ's striking is not primarily meant to KO an attacker. It is more to distract the attacker and set them up for submissions in it's aresenal. If a KO happens, ok, great, but, that is not it's main objective. Your main tools are the throws and submissions whether JJ or Judo. The two arts have the same mindset. They just have seperate tools, that when put together, make a good complete art. Judo's self-defense side is JJ, so, a self-defense oriented Judo class would be teaching you JJ anyway. If you don't have a JJ school available to you......Boxing seems pretty good. Boxing is one of the best striking arts anyway. It's strong focus on the hands goes in line with Judo's reliance on the hands (to grab and throw). Boxing requires you to get in hand-striking range. In that range it's also easy to go to grappling. So, the strikes are strong enough to end a fight and to get you in range for a more Judo-oriented fight ender. Karate could work too. Karate has throws set-up in most of it's styles. So, if a throw is a natural part of the Karate fighting strategy, Judo's throws will fit right in. I think these are some of the better ones for Judo. The kicking arts tend to not be a good blend with Judo. The kicks put you to far out for Judo's grappling, mess up your balance, I just don't see them as very good. Boxing isn't really that great in theory because it's strategy is different than Judo's, but, you can force boxing to fit the Judo mold. Kicking arts are harder to force into that mold it seems.

Answer 6

1) Judo is a good art.
2) there a great number of good arts.

As to who would win between practitioners of different styles, it depends more on the individual than it does on the style.

Judo (& other grappling styles) have several advantages:
1) they are effective in close.
2) they are effective on the ground.
3) they can be used to control a person without inflicting serious injuries.
The disadvantages are:
1) They are useless at long range.
2) they are very limited against multiple attackers (don't beleive the movies).
3) You are forced to be reactive. Untill an atacker makes a move, he has no momentum to use against him.

Find a style you like & GOOD LUCK

Answer 7

Judo gives you strength and technique to out menuver you opponent on the ground where kick boxing is just that kicking and boxing. Get him on the ground and you could have the upper advantage to leave unharmed. First rule of thumb, try to stay out of trouble in the first place and always fight when you have no other choice. Fighting just to fight just gloifies the individual persons ego, defense and fighting only when needed shows respect to any art you choose. Choose well grasshopper.

Answer 8

You have to ask yourself first and to be truthful with yourself, do you have what it takes to be functional at any fighting art.
It is not something you take on at 30 years old and become any more than a novice. If you are doing it to get into shape and meet people that good. However, most contact fighting arts, you will get hurt from time to time no mater what. To be proficient in any fighting art and to become confident in defending yourself take years.

David is correct in all aspects; Nick makes a good point as well, but Fitforlif, is the one who hit the nail on the head. It does not matter what fighting art you have, if you never get to use it. If you weigh 165 pounds and your opponent is a steel eating gorilla you are going to get hurt, if not killed.

First rule of all fighting is never do what your opponent expect or want you to do. 100% of the fight is in your head and knowing what to do to survive. Survival may mean having the will to kill you opponent, and without that stay the hell out of fights.

Last but not least, never take a knife to a gunfight!!!

Answer 9

You fools ....... LISTEN... THERE IS NO ULTIMATE MARTIAL ART!!!! A combination of complementing styles works best.

There are 3 general aspects of fighting, #1 Stand up (striking), #2 Transitions (throws and takedowns), and #3 Grappling (wrestling, submissions, etc..).

To be completely honest... all Martial Arts specialize in 1 area, although some are more complete than others.

Picking multiple Martial Arts and utilizing what works best is key.
YOU WANT TO BE AS WELL ROUNDED AS POSSIBLE.

I will stop from ranting and just tell u some examples of good combinations........

Muay Thai*, Jeet kune do, etc.... (Stand up striking),
Judo, Greco Roman Wrestling,.. (Transitions and takedowns),
Brazilian Jiu - Jitsu*, Sambo, etc.. (Grappling).

*Muay Thai is the most effective form of Kick/Boxing.. it includes fists, elbows, knees, kicks, clinch fighting, and even some takedowns.

*Brazilian Jiu - Jitsu is one of the best grappling martial arts.. Just remember that submissions are dangerous a choke will put u to sleep no matter what size u are. Armlocks and Leglocks may not kill u or put u to sleep, but they will disable u significantly to where i have a huge advantage.

I RECOMMEND THESE TWO THE MOST.

USE YOUR BRAIN .. U KNOW THIS IS TRUE

Answer 10

I don't know much about judo, but I recall a friend of mine who was a third degree black belt in tae kwon do saying that judo was the art of throwing or pushing people around. I did however watch my friend beat the crap out of several guys when a pretty bad fight broke out at a club. These guys would lunge at him and not to sound totally corny, but he avoided being hit with these kind of quick steven segal moves (leaning shoulder to one side to avoid a hit). He literally beat the bjeesus out of these guys and fast. It was kinda brutal.