Does it make sense why anyone would defend a law that makes it permissible to own a child as property?

Question

Does it really make sense to defend a law that makes it permissible to own a child as a piece of property, or as a slave?

Answer 1

Does it make sense to defend laws that murder children???

Of course, I am talking about abortion...

These were people who lived in a different part of the world and had a much different culture than our own.

What we do today would appall them as much as you are appalled by what they did.

Answer 2

Of course it's not right.

Adyghe...I really like many of your posts...you are a thinker, for the most part, which is rare these days. On this one, I think you are rather a lot off. I'm sorry, but the abortion issue is not being discussed here. But since you want to talk about it, let's be honest. If we did the Christian (or Muslim, or Buddhist, or Hindu, etc) thing and provided proper, thorough, and timely medical care for all Americans, abortion would quickly become a thing of the past (for the most part...there might be an occasional one, but they would be rare). Abortion happens for two reasons. First, the Christian schooled white teenaged girl from the right side of the tracks, and whose mom would freak if she knew she was taking birth control, never did. The taboo against premarital sex makes it not open for discussion. People will have sex. There is no law that could ever change that. As long as the taboo against sex and birth control stands, these girls won't take BC and when they get seduced and knocked up, they will find someone that will perform an abortion because to face their parents in such a light was too scary. The second cause is the poor. The vast majority of the abortions performed in this country is by poor women that cannot afford birth control and/or live in an area that BC is difficult to find.

That is the problem. Get rid of the taboo and provide health care for everyone and a reasonable standard of living for anyone that works full time. That would help raise the standard of living for everyone, and giving everyone a chance to survive, regardless of how much education or intelligence they have. Over 80% of people living below the poverty line in the United States work at least 40 hours/week. Most of them do not have healthcare.

Seek and you shall find. Knock and the doors will be opened unto you. Look for the cause instead of reationarily treating the symptom. Making something illegal does not stop it from happening. Getting rid of the causes will. This applies to abortion, crime, hatred, terrorism, war, etc.

Slavery...even paying someone at essentially slave wages...is wrong. Every human being is a creation of God, and is thus worthy of respect and humanity. Jesus said to love our neighbors. To take care of the poor. To heal the sick. To feed the hungry. To not be afraid. This is simple you guys! Greed is not good. Capitalism is all well and good, except there comes a point when it's not about making a living, but working to deprive others of one. After all, 97% of all money in this country is held by 0.1% of the people in this country. Ok, get this: Median Family Income is $40,000, or a stack of $100 bills 1.6 inches high. That is per year. At the 90% mark (10% make more, 90% make less), the stack of $100's is 3.5 inches tall. At the 99% mark, the stack is a foot tall. At 99.7%, the stack is about 40 inches, or waist high. At 99.9% (99.9% of the people make less, 0.1% make more) the stack of $100 bills is 30 MILES TALL!!! Most of the people in government are these 0.1%.


Time to take care of eachother like God intended.

Answer 3

1) Please quote your state law defending your comment.
2) Children are the responsibility of their parents!
It is the parents responsibility to feed, clothe and teach their children.
This is their God given responsibility and the parents right under all Federal and State laws!
Parents in the US do not treat their children as slaves although children feel this way because their parents are trying to teach them to accept responsibility and grow up!
If you have a problem with a parent, then change your attitude.
You will be one someday and will turn into your mom and dad and understand why they say and do the things they do.

Answer 4

Question: "Does the Bible condone slavery?”



Answer: The Bible does not specifically condemn the practice of slavery. It gives instructions on how slaves should be treated (Deuteronomy 15:12-15; Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 4:1), but does not outlaw the practice altogether. Many see this as the Bible condoning all forms of slavery. What many people fail to understand is that slavery in the Biblical times was very different from the slavery that was practiced in the past few centuries in many parts of the world. The slavery in the Bible was not based on race. People were not enslaved because of their nationality or the color of their skin. In Bible times, slavery was more of a social status. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their family. In New Testament times, sometimes doctors, lawyers, even politicians were slaves of someone else. Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided for by their master.

The slavery of the past few centuries was often based exclusively on skin color. Black people were considered slaves because of their nationality – many slave owners truly believed black people to be “inferior human beings” to white people. The Bible most definitely does condemn race-based slavery. Consider the slavery the Hebrews experienced when they were in Egypt. The Hebrew were slaves, not by choice, but because they were Hebrews (Exodus 13:14). The plagues God poured out on Egypt demonstrate how God feels about racial slavery (Exodus 7-11). So, yes, the Bible does condemn some forms of slavery. At the same time, the Bible does seem to allow for other forms of slavery. The key issue is that the slavery the Bible allowed for in no way resembled the racial slavery that plagued our world in the past few centuries.

Another crucial point is that the purpose of the Bible is to point the way to salvation, not to reform society. The Bible often approaches issues from the inside-out. If a person experiences the love, mercy, and grace of God, receiving His salvation – God will reform his soul, changing the way he thinks and acts. A person who has experienced God’s gift of salvation and freedom from the slavery of sin, as God reforms his soul, he will realize that enslaving another human being is wrong. A person who has truly experienced God’s grace will in turn be gracious towards others. That would be the Bible’s prescription for ending slavery.

Recommended Resource: Hard Sayings of the Bible by Kaiser, Davids, & Brauch.

Answer 5

it makes sense to defend it in principle, when the law was set during a time where there wasn't a question of "if" but one of regulating it.

in the bibical time frame it was simply part of life.

edit: and defending it for that time period, does not mean supporting it NOW. in modern times that sorta stuff is horrible. but then, it was a different world.

Answer 6

Property to an extent. You shouldn't have the rights to do whatever you want to the child (i.e., killing or rapeing) as they are still humans and have consciousness and feelings, but a parent should have the right to do whatever they want to the child so long as it doesn't hurt them.

Answer 7

Who are you talking about. Christians led the abolitionist movement. Slavery was around way before Christianity. It was only after the spread of Christianity that it ended in some countries.

Answer 8

I don't know where you are at. Kids are not property, but as an older person we can b held responsible for a youths action. Not property, but not free person either

Answer 9

MOST PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT CHILDREN DEFENDED BY THE LAW----------ARE OUT TO HARM THEM.
DO YOU WANT TO HARM A CHILD?
THEN DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

Answer 10

I can see no rational defense of such a law, which means that from my perspective, all such defenses are likely to be ad hoc and irrational.