Atheists attack Christianity on here all the time, yet always denies doing so. Why?

Question

Is this an Atheistic form of hypocricy?

Answer 1

Who denies it? Not me... Christianity needs to be mocked and ridiculed at every opportunity. Think of it as a Public Service.

It is the moral responsibility and ethical duty of rational people to protect vulnerable minds from being contaminated by Bronze Age myths and willful ignorance. Beyond that, Christianity represents a HUGE THREAT to the well-being and survival of our country and to the whole world... and so it must be confronted.

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/Clarkson_RiseOfDomionism.html
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/HistoryOfReconstructionMovement.html

I prefer the term 'rationalist', or 'free thinker', as opposed to 'atheist', 'agnostic', or 'unbeliever', since the former capture more of the people who think that religious beliefs are stupid and irrelevant than do the latter. Those terms capture the main reason that people BECOME rationalists... i.e., they have learned how to THINK properly. Once someone learns how to think properly, religious belief is one of the first casualties. Religious belief... particularly the Abrahamic death cults of desert monotheism (Judaism, Christianity, Islam)... simply cannot withstand the glaring light of reason and critical thought. It just evaporates. Poof. The fact that Christians assert and promote such ridiculous beliefs is a clear indication that they CAN'T (or WON'T) think properly.

Rational people recognize that SOME of the people (a few) who visit this forum are truly, sincerely seeking answers... with an open mind (willing to honestly consider alternative possibilities), and with intellectual honesty (willingness to freely question and doubt their own presumptions). That being the case, it is the MORAL OBLIGATION of rational people to HELP them keep their minds open, and to make them aware of some of those alternative possibilities. Inevitably, those alternative possibilities DO NOT include things like a 6,000 year-old earth and heaven, a solid 'firmament' structure (the sky) separating the earth from heaven (terrarium earth), talking snakes (with legs) and donkeys, a shepherd staff that turns into an asp, demons chased out of people and into pigs, friendly spirits, evil spirits, walking on water, multiplying loaves and fishes, food falling from the sky, conception by a ghost, people raised from the dead, the sun stopping in its tracks, parting seas, people being bodily sucked up into heaven (which, by the way, lies on the 'other side' of the sky), world-wide flood that drowned the earth to a depth of 40 feet above the tallest mountain, creating people from a dust bunny and a rib, a magical tree of knowledge, god speaking from a burning bush... and ritual cannibalism, by eating god in the form of a cracker.

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"A thorough reading and understanding of the Bible is the surest path to atheism” ~ Donald Morgan
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So, when someone comes along in a PUBLIC VENUE such as this one, regurgitating dogmatic slogans and bible verses, and the myths, superstitions, fairy tales and fantastical delusions of a tribe of ignorant Bronze Age fishermen and peripatetic goat herders, and declares them to represent some kind of cosmic 'TRUTH' (without the least bit of credible evidence)... well, by golly, that just HAS TO BE confronted... and scorned... and ridiculed.

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"Myth has been needed precisely because we were not in a position to understand the universe on its own terms, through the language of natural law and direct examination of its workings on a material, rational level. Once that process of understanding is completed—and we are well on our way to achieving that—the use of myth can be discarded. Its continuing retention is already proving to be counter-productive." - Earl Doherty

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"I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do."  ~ D. Dale Gulledge
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In order to have a rational view of the universe, it is necessary that one possess the mental faculties that facilitate reason, logic and critical thought. The things that are entailed by Christian beliefs demonstrate, beyond any doubt, a LACK of those faculties. Christians do serve a useful purpose in this forum, though... as a classic 'bad example'. They obligingly trot out assertions about impossible happenings and circumstances, and magical delusions, and glaring misconceptions about science and nature and the universe... which can then be rationally confronted and exposed, and their preposterousness revealed.

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"A country without village idiots is not worth living in. Without them there is no way of knowing who are sane. ~ Oliver St. John Gogarty
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"The god who is reputed to have created fleas to keep dogs from moping over their situation must also have created fundamentalists to keep rationalists from getting flabby.  Let us be duly thankful for our blessings."  ~ Garrett Hardin
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Rational people are NOT trying to CONVERT Christians; we are trying to protect people FROM Christians, and the insidious mind killing delusions and willful ignorance which they seek to spread, as if they were some kind of organized, dogmatic insanity virus.

However, rational people generally DO respect everyone's right (in the privacy of their own minds) to delude themselves in whatever fashion they may deem fit.

Science, logic, reason, and critical thought have long been regarded (by religious people) as the enemies of religion. Considering that those are the tools of highly intelligent people, it should not come as a huge shock to learn that intelligence (or lack of it) has some connection to religious belief. In fact, there are about 40 studies, conducted over the past 80 years or so, that reveal a statistically significant NEGATIVE CORRELATION between intelligence and religiosity. In plainer language, that means that they found that the more intelligent a person is, the LESS likely that person is to be religious... or, conversely, the LESS intelligent a person is, the MORE likely that person is to be religious.

If you think about it, those findings make a lot of sense. Intelligence tests mainly provide an indication of reasoning ability and problem solving ability... logic, reason and critical thought. These are the very qualities that see through religion, and recognize it for what it is; i.e., religion cannot survive the glaring light of reason and critical thought. This was well understood by important figures in religious history. This is why the early church destroyed all the 'tainted' (non-canonical) writings, which were in conflict with dogma... Greek philosophy, medicine, mathematics, astronomy, engineering... all the good stuff. By this means, Christianity dragged humanity directly into the Dark Ages, and set back human progress between 800 - to - 1,000 years. (If it hadn't have been for Christianity, Christopher Columbus would probably have been going on a mission to set up a mining colony in the asteroid belt, or something like that, rather than trying to prove that the world was a sphere, and find a shortcut to the Orient.)

Just to illustrate the point, let's see what Martin Luther, the 'father' of protestantism, had to say about 'reason' and secular knowledge:

"Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God." ~ Martin Luther

"Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but -- more frequently than not -- struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God." ~ Martin Luther

"There is on earth among all dangers no more dangerous thing than a richly endowed and adroit reason... Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed." ~ Martin Luther

"Reason should be destroyed in all Christians." ~ Martin Luther

Christianity is essentially a criminal business enterprise... in fact, it is the world's longest running and most successful Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) scam. The product they are selling is the illusion of 'salvation'... and the 'pay plan' doesn't kick in until after you're dead. Meanwhile the VICTIMS (having been deceived into believing that it is their God-given duty) are out there busily recruiting MORE victims. What a racket! FORTUNATELY, it only works on those who are gullible enough, and sufficiently lacking in critical thinking skills, to fall for it, and buy in to the prepackaged delusion. UNfortunately, THAT accounts for about 75% of the population of the USA. (There are a lot more people who DON'T know how to think properly than there are people who DO know how to think properly.) That is why there are a lot more religious people in the USA than there are 'Free-thinkers'... including Atheists. Also, Christians are generally too dense to realize that proselytizing (spreading the 'good news') is a key element of the Christian MLM MARKETING PLAN, which was instituted after Christianity lost the political power that had previously allowed them to simply torture and kill anybody who did not comply. Now, they obliviously try to just pester and annoy people to death, through persistent obnoxiousness. If you stop to think about it, you will realize that Christians are very much like the Borg, on Star Trek Next Generation: "You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile." I would not be surprised to learn that thoughts of Christianity provided the 'creative spark' for the Borg concept.

Interestingly, statistics on supernatural beliefs count the USA on a par with backward, developing Third World nations, rather than among modern, advanced industrial powers.

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"Selling eternal life is an unbeatable business, with no customers ever asking for their money back after the goods are not delivered." ~ Victor J. Stenger

"Businesses may come and go, but religion will last forever, for in no other endeavor does the consumer blame himself for product failure."  ~ Harvard Lampoon, "Doon" (paraphrase)

http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm
http://home.ca.inter.net/oblio/home.htm

Answer 2

the place contained in the hot testomony does it say that the previous testomony revelations have been "imperfect"? How ought to they be, in the event that they got here from God? You Christians place self belief in previous testomony prophesy to teach that Jesus develop into the Messiah predicted again, yet now you are going to declare that the previous testomony is unreliable?!? Make up your f**king minds!!! The validity of the hot testomony completely relies upon on the correctness of the Messianic predictions contained in the previous testomony. you in easy terms desire to disown the previous testomony because of the fact it makes your God appear like an entire a**hollow, and you desire to faux he's all love and forgiveness and bunny rabbit memories, while in certainty he's a homicidal maniac with a short fuse. As as your Savior suggested, "I and the daddy are one." So while Yahweh dedicated genocide on the peoples of Canaan, or flooded the Earth, or offered His very own people into slavery (a minimum of two times that i comprehend of), and so on, the Son did it besides. Even leaving in the back of the previous testomony does no longer shop your God's attractiveness, whether, because of the fact contained in the hot testomony His habit get even worse if achieveable. contained in the e book of Revelation he's depicted as destroying the total Earth by potential of fireplace (breaking His previous testomony promise "by no potential back to smash the Earth for guy's sake, as I certainly have finished") and sending infinite people to Hell for all eternity for the "crime" of no longer worshiping Him - whether they have by no potential HEARD of Him! No straw adult men there, in basic terms chilly complicated data that Christians would desire to possess as much as. heavily, how is your God to any extent further than the gods of the Aztecs?

Answer 3

Well. I'm an atheist and I don't actively attack Christianity. But when someone posts something as a statement of fact when it is actually a statement of faith (an entirely different thing) that should be challenged.

Answer 4

I don't deny anything. I do NOT attack "Christianity". I simply defend my right to not have Christians or any other religion to push their religion on me. They can believe what they want and I will do the same. I don't try to convert them and I don't want them to try to convert me.

Why don't you ask a question about why do Christians attack Atheists?

Answer 5

We do it verbally though. We don't bomb churches, like christians bomb abortion clinics.

Christians have been violent aggressors numerous times in their lifetime. Just look at the Inquisitions, holy wars, crusades, and the salem witch trials...just to name a few. Atheists were didn't cause those atrocities.

Answer 6

Christianity attacks atheists all the time as well and claim that it's not a real attack. It's just tit for tat

Answer 7

Because it is in the SPIRIT of Things Here and in the Reality of paying back those who serve the religious right that have ATTACKED and killed millions in HIS name!

Answer 8

I've decided I'll be an agnostic, but I'll still attack the likes of you every now and then. Don't worry though, I am not the one in denial.

Answer 9

I am a Catholic Convert myself and frankly speaking if we are going to be self-centred in our belief in God, this will certainly piss alot of atheists all.

people look at how we behave ourselves my dear.

Answer 10

I've already told you in your last question---It's because the Xtians attack Atheists. You get what you give.

Answer 11

No it's a defence. they have asmuch right to be here as you do. You mean to say everyone should leave here so you christians can discuss how to save us!