I know I am going to get slammed, but, here it goes.....Paul said no...here.(1 Corinthians 14:34-35) and here(1 Timothy 2:12) I have read arguments from effeminant males teaching to 'misinterpretation'. So. Is the bible rock solid ( I think so) or can it be amended like the US constitution?
2006-10-07 08:16:17 · 9 answers · asked by TCFKAYM 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Ok. If Modern Times allows for an apostle's words to be changed, ignored, interpreted differently...then doe is not lead to the whole New Testament being open to change? Where is the line drawn that says 'stop here' ? This scares me. I guess it is my action and words that make me, and I don't have a right to judge what is going on, just a right to question it to myself and look/pray for an answer
2006-10-07 08:27:22 · update #1
I think the Bible is "rock solid." These verses come from a very cultural Paul! I remember years ago when I first got saved and read these verses and went "wow what in the world is this!" and a lady who was helping me in the Scriptures had me read some history of how they lived when Paul was writing these verses.
Apparently, (as much as I can remember) the only way the women learned things in those days was when the men came home and told them things. In other words, the men were the only ones who could go to college, go to school, go to work, etc. The only time the women could learn anything about anything would be thru their husbands or brothers, and sometimes what they did learn got distorted as it was passed on to the other ladies. According to what I read, the ladies were causing some problems in the church then repeating distorted things they had heard about God and teaching it too. This is when Paul says they should just be quiet and be submissive. This is what I got out of reading the history behind his remarks. It's so interesting to do this and it helps alot too, they still treat women this way in that part of the country, but not here in the U.S. My husband has a brother in Iraq right now and he says it's still this way. Interesting huh! Hope some of this helps.
2006-10-07 09:02:14 · answer #1 · answered by trainer53 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think that if the bible was inspired by the divine - it was still written by men. Since I believe the bible is a collection of moral fables - I also believe that the writings reflected the patriarchal view of women at the time. Our view of women over the centuries has changed. Women are no longer just breeders, cooks, maids, sex slaves, and property. So I think that certain views like this - man made views - need to be re-evaluated. IMO, there is nothing wrong with a woman being a member of the priesthood. IMO, only insecure men would still agree with that.
2006-10-07 15:24:08 · answer #2 · answered by swordarkeereon 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
A woman preaching!
It's like watching a dog walk on its hind legs.
The surprise isn't to see how well it's done,
The surprise is that it's done at all!
In the so-called Old Testament, God states to the Israelites "I will make you a nation of priests". Note: NOT priestesses.
As for the New Testament, Paul was certainly a woman hater, mysogenist and possibly, from his attitude to women, a queer.
The possible take on this moght be that men would be more interested in looking up her skirt than listening to the sermon. At least, that's what school was like when we had young, nubile women teachers.
In addition, many ministresses/priestesses or vicarettes tend to be drooling, pretty-pretty apologists. Few are theologians.
Mind you, since in the UK, we now have priests who think it makes sense to camp in a tent inside a church, maybe they're all "nithings" these days.
2006-10-07 15:56:39 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
know exactly what you're referring to and there is a totally different culture and society in modern times than in Biblical times. back in Ancient Times the Ladies were basically treated as property in most cultures and societies. times have changed and personally see nothing wrong with Ladies taking leadership roles in Church affairs. some of the best sermons I've heard were from Lady Ministers and Priests. It is the ability of the person not the gender which is important.
2006-10-07 15:22:09 · answer #4 · answered by Marvin R 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I cannot see how it is right for the C of E to ordain women to the priesthood, those that have been do not have valid orders because the C of E cannot unilaterally allow this until all apostolic churches agree, and as you quote it is not biblical. I look forward to an answer trying to legitimise women priests, can anyone convince me it is Gods will?
2006-10-07 15:25:51 · answer #5 · answered by keithcampion 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋
on earth god made man and gave him a free will, so if the us, amends its constitution, it would be the work of man, according to me i think it would be best if men were priests though in ancient times there were priestess,
2006-10-07 15:21:50 · answer #6 · answered by cluelesskat maria 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
What are effeminant males? You mean drag queens and transexuals or what?
2006-10-07 15:20:55 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
my church has had women ministers before....thousands of years ago the world was different....Nothing is supposed to be added to the Bible..
2006-10-07 15:24:49 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
thats nice
2006-10-07 15:27:14 · answer #9 · answered by -x-caroline-x- 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋