The Babylonian Talmud written somewhere around A.D. 70-200 says;
On the eve of the Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald . . . cried, "He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy."
Josephus was born a couple of years after Jesus died and he though that Emperor Vespasian would be the new Messiah. (He wouldn't have said that Jesus was Christ.) He does mention Jesus but can it be proved to be more than hearsay?
Tacitus and Pliny the Younger wrote about early Christians and what they had heard from them, it's hearsay not proof.
Lucian of Samosata also writes about what he's heard from early Christians.
Edit to add;
Dude, Josephus is in there because I knew the quote that sarahstar... put in her answer would show up. It has been tampered with and proves nothing.
Another edit;
The only part that makes sense to me is the Babylonian Talmud, but Christians don't like that part since it says that Jesus was stoned, not crucified.
2006-10-06 22:53:57
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answered by *duh* 5
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There are non-biblical references to Jesus.
However, these are all written long after his death, and many are known fakes. Sarastar lists a bunch of known fogeries. The Josepheus comment she quotes is one of the fakes, but there is a comment by Josepheus from about the time of Jesus. But it just says that a religious leader named Jesus was executed.
Religion is faith-based. Historical knowledge does not matter...
Don't add to religion what it does not need.
2006-10-07 06:20:51
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answer #2
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answered by RjKardo 3
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Wow, Sarah! Quite the impressive list! Oh, wait, what is that? Most of those were written DECADES and HUNDREDS of years after the death of Christ and all have been debunked. If Josephus wrote of and believed in Jesus then he would've converted, think about that, question it and come to the truth. Josephus's writings were tampered with as it goes out of line with the rest of his writings.
Even if there were historical evidence, it wouldn't bring me back to Christianity, doesn't prove god one way or the other.
2006-10-07 06:00:23
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answered by FreeThinker 3
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About half way down on the link below, you will find links to these questions:
Answers to Questions about Jesus
Was Jesus just a myth?
Did Jesus really die on the cross?
Did Jesus rise from the dead?
Didn't Jesus simply rise in a non-physical, spirit form?
If Jesus is God in flesh, why did He not inherit original sin?
Can't all of Jesus' miracles be explained naturally?
These will give you answers.
Also, to reply to one of the answers, the Koran may say Jesus was a prophet...but the BIBLE declares Jesus to be the SON of GOD or in other words...GOD in the flesh. See the 2nd link below.
2006-10-07 06:01:51
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answer #4
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answered by Anonymous
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Glorious Quran which tells the true story of Jesus which have been
considered as theory of begotten but now the truth has arrived
Jesus is a messenger of GOD not the son
Some places of Bible says the same
GOD is One and only not a father nor a son
2006-10-07 05:59:02
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answered by Deepest-Blue 2
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Try reading The Case For Christ; it's about a guy who was an atheist and decides to look into the historical evidence that Jesus existed and what he finds leads him to become a christian. He points out all the historical finds. It's by Lee Strobel.
2006-10-07 05:53:30
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answered by Aliayh 2
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The Urantia Book has a revelation of the life of Jesus from birth to death . It includes all parts previously unknown. His Youth , His travels and His teachings.
2006-10-07 05:59:02
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answered by samssculptures 5
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· Flavius Josephus - c90CE
· Suetonius - c120CE
· Tactitus - 110CE
· Pliny - c110CE
· Thallus - cited in c300CE
· Talmud - 200-500CE
· 'Acts of Pilate'
The Josephus passage is among the most celebrated as proving that Jesus existed:
"Now, there was about this time, Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works; a teacher of such men as received the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was the Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day." (Antiquities XVIII 63f)
Tactitus wrote that:
"Consequently ... Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations. Called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberias at the hands of the Procurator Pontius Pilatus, and a deadly superstition, thus checked for a moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but also in the City." Annals (XV.44.2-8)
Pliny wrote a letter to the emperor Trajan saying:
"They also declared that the sum total of their guilt or error amounted to no more than this: that they had met regularly before dawn on a fixed day to chant verses alternately among themselves in honour of Christ as if to a god, and also to bind themselves by oath, not for any criminal purpose, but to abstain from theft, robbery, and adultery ..."
Thallus is said to have written that Jesus' death was accompanied by earthquake and darkness. His original work has been lost and it was cited only in Julius Africanus' work in the third century.
Many Christians also make reference to the "Acts of Pilate" whicih Justin Martyr said was Pilate's report to Rome of the crucifixion of Jesus. Several other early church writers also referred to this, including Euseubius, who said there was a forged copy of that report circulating in his day. At the present time, the apocryphal Gospel of Nicodemus claims to have this report within it, and there is also another report. The second report, called " The letter of Pontius Pilate which he wrote to the Roman Emperor, concerning our Lord Jesus Christ. is thought by most historians to have been written in the fifth century.
2006-10-07 05:59:56
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answered by sarahstar111 2
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There was historical record his crucifiction in Roman legal records. It didn't mention much of anything about biblical accounts but it was used to validate his death date.
2006-10-07 06:08:35
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answered by W0LF 5
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Quran - It states Jesus exists as prophet
2006-10-07 05:52:07
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answered by aa_mohammad 4
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