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Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

if we know that Jesus was talking to father in this verse
So it's very clear that eternal life is only for those who belive that father is the only God .. and Jesus is a messenger of God.
1+1=2

I know this question was asked many times .. but NO answer

2006-10-06 02:14:27 · 30 answers · asked by Kimo 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

30 answers

Is Jesus God?
The Answer is definately "NO".

Is Jesus God?
Jesus Christ is not God (he was figuratively God in the Old Testament; the spokesperson for God) = John 1:1. So does the Bible say Jesus is God; no it says that Jesus is the son of God = 1John 4:15.
References of the devil or demons calling Jesus Son of God:
Matthew 4:3
Matthew 4:6,
Matthew 8:29
Mark 3:11
Luke 4:3
Luke 4:9
Luke 4:41

References to humans calling Jesus Son of God:
Matthew 14:33
Matthew 27:54
Mark 1:1
Mark 15:39
John 1:34
John 1:49
John 11:27
John 20:31
Acts 9:20
Romans 1:4
2 Corinthians 1:19
Galatians 2:20
Hebrews 4:14
Hebrews 6:6
Hebrews 7:3
Hebrews 10:29
1 John 3:8
1 John 4:15
1 John 5:1
1 John 5:5
1 John 5:10
1 John 5:13
1 John 5:20
Matthew 14:33
Revelation 2:18

Jesus referring to himself as the Son of God:
John 3:18
John 5:25
John 10:36
John 11:4
http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/magazine/tw-mag.cgi?category=Magazine3&item=1103832467
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Now if you look at the verse you gave in John 17:3 carefully; you will know there's an and. Jesus Christ came here on earth to show people who God is by his actions and features. So if we knew Jesus in our heart; we would know God because Jesus showed us when he was on earth.
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To understand this better; most people say Jesus is God; how can this be? What happened to Jesus then, if Jesus is God or what happened to God if Jesus is God?
1John 2:22-24.
The Bible contradicts the Trinity teaching over and over. Now if Jesus was a trinity (which is unbiblical), that would mean he didn't come fully in the flesh = 1John 4:3.
How can Jesus be God and talk to himself?
http://family.webshots.com/photo/1472651266051497771QlfGdY

TRINITY is defined as "A three-fold personality existing in one divine being or substance; the union in one God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three infinite co-equal, co-eternal persons as; one God in three persons."

The Trinity Doctrine came from paganism.
(Pagan means no religious beliefs)
http://www.cornerstone1.org/trinity1.htm
http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/html/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=140
http://mikeblume.com/pagantr.htm

Most of the majority(Matt.7:13) leads people away from the Truth.

(KJV BIBLE)There are 3 that protestants claim about the trinity; they're JOHN 14 & 15 and 1JOHN 5:7. To start out 1JOHN 5:7 was never in any of the inspired Greek manuscripts; so this knocks out one. As for John 14 & 15; the Greek word for "helper" is paracletos; one who helps inwhich points to the Holy spirit. In Greek, the word "He" is neuter such as "hand" is feminine whether it is a woman's hand or male's hand. As for the word "paracletos" it is masculine and always require a masculine pronoun. This however doesn't prove personhood as you've noticed.
But as you've noticed, these texts don't prove Jesus is God or the Holy Spirit.
I don't believe in the TRINITY! The Bible texts that I'm going to mention contradict the Trinity teaching.
MATT.12:32 "AND WHOSOEVER SPEAKETH A WORD AGAINST THE SON OF MAN, IT SHALL BE FORGIVEN HIM: BUT WHOSOEVER SPEAKETH AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST, IT SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN HIM, NEITHER IN THIS WORLD, NEITHER IN THE WORLD TO COME."
JOHN 14:28 "IF YE LOVED ME, YE WOULD REJOICE, BECAUSE I SAID , I GO UNTO THE FATHER: FOR MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I."
1COR.11:3 "BUT I WOULD HAVE YOU KNOW THAT THE HEAD OF EVERY MAN IS CHRIST; & THE HEAD OF THE WOMAN IS THE MAN; AND THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD."
LUKE 18:19 "AND JESUS SAID UNTO HIM, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD? NONE IS GOOD, SAVE ONE, THAT IS, GOD."
****SEVERAL OTHER TEXTS SAY THERE'S ONLY TWO PERSONS:
1COR.1:3; 8:6; 1TIM.1:2; 2:5; GAL.1:3; PHILIPP.1:2; ROM.1:7; 2COR.1:2-3; 1THESS.1:1; 2THESS.1:2; 2TIM.1:2; PHILEMON 1:3; 1PETER 1:3; 2PETER 1:2; 1JOHN 1:3; 2JOHN 1:3.

Now touching on the HOLY SPIRIT; the Holy Spirit is a power(Luke 1:35= "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the "Son of God.") where God and Jesus make their presence known in the hearts and minds of believers(1John 3:24 = "And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us."). The believers of god and Jesus will have this love poured on them (Rom.5:5 = "And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given to us.") It will teach them understanding and wisdom of God's Word (John 14:16,17,20,23,26 = "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. At that day ye shall know that I am in the Father, and ye in me, and I in you. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.") Jesus had the Holy Spirit in him when he made the lame walk and the deaf to hear and etc.(Luke 5:15-17) God works in our minds to give us stength to overcome (Genesis 6:3 = "And the Lord said, my Spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.") Other texts are: John 7:38-39; Rom.8:11,13-14,16 and Psalm 104:30.

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Another text that Trinitarians use to say Jesus is the same being as God is John 10:30.
Well many confuse this text in John 10:30 to say Jesus and God are one and the same person; but this text doesn't mean that. In fact what does Jesus/Bible tell us in these texts; doesn't it say that Jesus and God are seperate people?

JOHN 14:28 = "YE HAVE HEARD HOW I SAID UNTO YOU, I GO AWAY, AND COME AGAIN UNTO YOU. IF YE LOVED ME, YE WOULD REJOICE, BECAUSE I SAID, I GO UNTO THE FATHER: FOR MY FATHER IS GREATER THAN I."

JOHN 20:17 = "JESUS SAID UNTO HER, TOUCH ME NOT; FOR I AM NOT ASCENDED TO MY FATHER: BUT GO TO MY BRETHREN, AND SAY TO THEM, I ASCEND UNTO MY FATHER, AND YOUR FATHER; AND TO MY GOD AND YOUR GOD."

1COR.11:3 "BUT I WOULD HAVE YOU KNOW THAT THE HEAD OF EVERY MAN IS CHRIST; & THE HEAD OF THE WOMAN IS THE MAN; AND THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD."

LUKE 18:19 "AND JESUS SAID UNTO HIM, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD? NONE IS GOOD, SAVE ONE, THAT IS, GOD."

MATT.19:17 = "AND HE SAID UNTO HIM, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD? THERE IS NONE GOOD BUT ONE, THAT IS, GOD: BUT IF THOU WILT ENTER INTO LIFE, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS."

****SEVERAL OTHER TEXTS SAY THERE'S ONLY TWO PERSONS:
1COR.1:3; 8:6; 1TIM.1:2; 2:5; GAL.1:3; PHILIPP.1:2; ROM.1:7; 2COR.1:2-3; 1THESS.1:1; 2THESS.1:2; 2TIM.1:2; PHILEMON 1:3; 1PETER 1:3; 2PETER 1:2; 1JOHN 1:3; 2JOHN 1:3.

So what does John 10:30 really means--when it says "I and my Father are one?" Well let's go further down to John 10:38. Doesn't it tell us that God and Jesus are alike and similar in actions, features, and etc? Take a Father with his son or a Mother with her daughter; do they have characteristics like you; but does that mean they're you? No of course not; they're seperate, but are alike in different ways.

JOHN 10:38 = "BUT IF I DO, THOUGH YE BELIEVE NOT ME, BELIEVE THE WORKS: THAT YE MAY KNOW, AND BELIEVE, THAT THE FATHER IS IN ME, AND I IN HIM."

JOHN 5:19-20 = "THEN, ANSWERED JESUS AND SAID UNTO THEM, VERILY, VERILY, I SAY UNTO YOU, THE SON CAN DO NOTHING OF HIMSELF, BUT WHAT HE SEETH THE FATHER DO: FOR WHAT THINGS SOEVER HE DOETH, THESE ALSO DOETH THE SON LIKEWISE. FOR THE FATHER LOVETH THE SON, AND SHEWETH HIM ALL THINGS THAT HIMSELF DOETH: AND HE WILL SHEW HIM GREATER WORKS THAN THESE, THAT YE MAY MARVEL."

JOHN 17:21-22 = "THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE; AS THOU, FATHER, ART IN ME, AND I IN THEE, THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US: THAT THE WORLD MAY BELIEVE THAT THOU HAS SENT ME. AND THE GLORY WHICH THOU GAVEST ME I HAVE GIVEN THEM; THAT THEY MAY BE ONE, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE."

JOHN 14:10-11 = "BELIEVEST THOU NOT THAT I AM IN THE FATHER, AND THE FATHER IN ME? THE WORDS THAT I SPEAK UNTO YOU I SPEAK OF NOT MYSELF: BUT THE FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN ME, HE DOETH THE WORKS. BELIEVE ME THAT I AM IN THE FATHER, AND THE FATHER IN ME: OR ELSE BELIEVE ME FOR THE VERY WORKS' SAKE."

JOHN 5:36 = "BUT I HAVE A GREATER WITNESS THAN THAT OF JOHN: FOR THE WORKS WHICH THE FATHER HATH GIVEN ME TO FINISH, THE SAME WORKS THAT I DO, BEAR WITNESS OF ME, THAT THE FATHER HATH SENT ME."

JOHN 10:25 = "JESUS ANSWERED THEM, I TOLD YOU, AND YOU BELIEVED NOT: THE WORKS THAT I DO IN MY FATHER'S NAME, THEY BEAR WITNESS OF ME."

Also many others such as:
JOHN 8:28,42,49-50,54; 5:19-20,26-27,30; 6:38,57
MATT.20:23

2006-10-06 04:16:37 · answer #1 · answered by KNOWBIBLE 5 · 2 0

Wrong math equation is not 1+1=2 but 1x1=1. In both Holy books , The Bible and in The Koran show that Jesus can do all the things that God or Allah can. In the Holy Koran says that as Allah can create life from the dust and blow the breath of life and become a living creature Jesus(Isa) also. In the Holy Bible says that only God can forgive sins, can heal the sick, can resurrect from the dead and can cast out devils Jesus too did the same, so no matter we cut it Jesus have the same attributes of God in both Holy Books.

2006-10-06 02:29:51 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Jesus replied, "Philip, don't you even yet know who I am, even after all the time I have been with you? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father! So why are you asking to see him?
Don't you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words I say are not my own, but my Father who lives in me does his work through me. Just believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. Or at least believe because of what you have seen me do.
John 14:9-11

God has purchased our freedom with his blood and has forgiven all our sins.
Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before God made anything at all and is supreme over all creation.
Christ is the one through whom God created everything in heaven and earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can't see--kings, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities. Everything has been created through him and for him. He existed before everything else began, and he holds all creation together.
Colosians 1:14-17

2006-10-06 02:24:36 · answer #3 · answered by Jay Z 6 · 2 0

Muslims believe that Jesus (peac be up on him) is a prophet had sent from the god to ppl .. he have mother but he doesn't have a father .. the god who made all this earth and all this living creature he can made a person from nothing becoz he is the GOD ..but some people still didnt get that.

2006-10-06 02:23:56 · answer #4 · answered by Alone 4 · 0 0

He is a messenger- but He is God.
It is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, three but separate.
I think of it like this. God the Father is the Creator- The Holy Spirit the "power" and Jesus the, for lack of a better word, enforcer.
It is hard to wrap your mind around, but ask God to help you and show the Trinity- and really does it matter? Jesus is God, God is God.

2006-10-06 02:18:31 · answer #5 · answered by IN Atlanta 4 · 1 2

Jesus in human form is the Son of God. But Jesus also makes up a part of the Holy Trinity, "In the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" - these are the spiritual beings that make up what we know as "God" in the Catholic faith.

2006-10-06 02:17:19 · answer #6 · answered by Colly 2 · 1 1

Jhn 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?

Jesus himself said it - he is God the Father. He had the fullness of the Holy Spirit too - that is why he could do all of his miracles. Jesus and the Father are One. Remember when Jesus said, Jhn 8:58 Jesus said unto them, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." When Jesus says "I am" he is saying his is the great "I am".

Hope that helps.

2006-10-06 02:23:26 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Jesus is God manifest (revealed) in flesh.

When God became a man, He did not cease being God. When God became incarnated in a human existence, God did not cease to inhabit the heavens. God now exists both in the incarnation as a genuine human being, and yet continues to exist beyond the incarnation. Biblically this distinction is maintained by the Father/Son distinction. As God exists apart from and beyond the incarnation He is referred to as "Father." As God exists in the incarnation He is referred to as "Son" or "Jesus Christ."

To reiterate, the distinction between the Father and Son is a distinction that arose in the incarnation because of the addition of humanity to God's previously unmitigated existence as exclusive Spirit.

Paul said Jesus "is the image of the invisible God" (Colossians 1:15). The author of Hebrews said Jesus is the "express image of his [God's] person" (1:3). "Express image" is from the Greek word charakter, meaning to impress upon, or stamp. It denotes an engravement from a tool, which impresses an image into that which is being engraved. This impression, then, is a characteristic of the instrument used to do produce it. What is produced corresponds precisely with the instrument.

The Greek word translated "person" is hypostasis. Although rendered as "person," it is more properly understood as essence of being, or the substance of a thing. Jesus, therefore, is not just a representation of God, but is the very visible impression of God's invisible substance and essence. He is God's very nature expressed in humanity. To say it another way, He is the corresponding engravement of God's essence of being, in human form.

2006-10-06 02:22:10 · answer #8 · answered by atreadia 4 · 1 1

If I give you a small slice of chees from a large block(The taste being consitent throught the whole Block) and you spit out the cheese saying you hate the taste, then you reject the whole block. Jesus was God manifest in Human form, the BIBle says that if the Jews rejected HIm(jesus) they were rejecting the fatheralso. John later rights "whosoever denies the son, the same has not the father: but he that acknowledges the son, has the father also" (1John2:23) also see John 10:30/

But, In light of this, just as important is what God came to do when he bacame Jesus in the flesh. I would like to explain by asking you a couple of questions. the Number one question ius, Do you consider yourself to be a good person? here are a few questions to see if were good enough to get to heaven by Gods standard (Ten Commandments).

Have you ever lied (even once--fibs, white lies, etc.)? Ever stolen (anything--the value is irrelevant)? Jesus said, "Whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her, has committed adultery already with her in his heart." Have you ever looked with lust? If you have said "Yes" to these three questions, by your own admission, you are a lying, thieving, adulterer at heart; and we’ve only looked at three of the Ten Commandments. there are seven more questions to go. for instance, have you always put God first? the BIble says None are good, Only Jesus has kept this commandment. Have you ever hated someone? The Bible calls Hate Murder of the Heart. If you were to die today, and God were to Judge you by this standard, would you be innocent or guilty? The BIBle says you would be guilty, and the penalty for our sins is death and Hell. That should greatly concern you and I. I know you value your life, you wouldnt play russian roullet with a loaded Gun, you wouldn make a habiut of running redlights just for the thrill of it. You have an inner voice that screams "I dont want to die!" please listen to that voice today, Listen to your conscience, you know those things are wrong and you will be without excuse. Though we deserve Hell, God has done something wonderful for us. He sent His Son to take our punishment: "God commended His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." He was bruised for our iniquities. Jesus then rose from the dead and defeated death.
Your own so-called “goodness” can’t get you into heaven any more than mine could. Jesus is the only way to Heaven. He is the "Door," the only "mediator." There is salvation in no other name, so pray something like this: "Dear God, I repent of all of my sins (confess them). This day I put my trust in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Please forgive me and grant me your gift of everlasting life. In Jesus’ name I pray. Amen."

2006-10-06 02:37:42 · answer #9 · answered by WDJD 3 · 1 1

No, Jesus is the son of GOD. No one knows or has any idea of what GOD looks like as no one has ever seen him. Now I know this is going to get some responses that I'm an idiot and what not BUT Jesus is the only one that has been seen. Other than maybe Moses having seen GOD with the ten commandments.
This is an answer that you'll at least acknowledge.?

2006-10-06 02:21:09 · answer #10 · answered by GRUMPY 7 · 1 3

Jesus claimed he is God in John 8:58-59 that he is God. He refurred to himself as "I am" as God told Moses in the burning Bush that that is who he is. And for futher proof, right after Jesus claimed this the pharasees picked up stones to stone him. The only reason people in that time would stone eachother is if 1) they commited murder, 2) they commited adultery or 3) if they claimed to be God. In the context given Jesus clearly did not commit adultery or admit to murder, so by defalt, he was claiming to be God.

2006-10-06 02:32:36 · answer #11 · answered by weirdhatgirl 1 · 0 1

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