Evolutionist, please answer?

Question

I am confused, and I hope I get some good answers now, otherwise I will understand why some say evolution is stupid.
1 Why is the biggest desert in the world +- 4400 years old?
2 Why is the oldest tree only 4400 years old?
3 If the moon is moving away from the earth at about 20cm per year, why can we still see it?
4 When a star explodes, it makes a nova, or if it realy big, a super nove. Why do we only have +- 300 nova or super nova's in space, and scientist says that about every 30-50 years one explodes, shouldnt we have allot more if the earth is millions of years old?
5 If you work out the population growth, and you work it backwards, you will find that about 4400 years ago there was about 8 people that started the population. Why is that?

No stupid answers, help me out here please

Answer 1

1 Does it matter?

2 Actually there are shrubs in Death Valley estimated to be 15,000 years old.

3 Your info is flawed, sorry kid.

4 do you even know what a nova and a super nova are? A supernova isn't just a big nova.

5 your estimation of population growth is bogus, especially in light of the fact that we have thousands of human reamains much older than 4400 years.

Here's one for you, if the Earth is only 4400 years old, why are there so many things older than that lying around?

You will refuse to see or recognize any evidence that proves your religion is incorrect. You already have decided the "truth" and it has nothing to do with facts or evidence. You are and people like you, are the reason why the US is becoming the laughing stock of the civilized world.

You creationists can't even decide what constitutes evolution and what doesn't. The age of the Earth has nothing to do with evolution. That's geology. The age of the universe is a question in cosmology. Evolution is part of biology. You know, the study of life? And not just the things alive now, but the things that died out millions of years ago that are still present in our fossil record.

Answer 2

On the matter of deserts, the earth is constantly changing and what was a desert is now a forest and what was a jungle is now a desert. One critical error in your argument is that you assume geology is static--i.e., that the earth is the same as it was 4,400 years ago which is not true. New deserts have appeared and some deserts have gone away during that time. As such, to pick a single desert as the basis of your argument is what is known as a "straw man" argument.

On the question of super novae, scientists have answered the age old question of why the sky is not full of stars or a blanket of white since in reality, there is a star somewhere in the universe in every direction that we look. The answer to this question has to do with the time it takes light to travel between a distant object and the earth. As such, the further we look into space, the further back in time we see. It is not a static model.

On the question of population, your facts are only partially correct. It is not population growth that is worked backwards but genetic coding and it actually goes back several 100,000 years and not 4,400. The reaon the population model gives that number is that it does not account for variations in population growth, natural desasters, pandemics, wars and other factors that have a huge impact on population. Instead, it assumes a "linear" model that ignores multiple attenuation mechanisms.

I hope this helps.

Answer 3

1. How does one determine the age of a desert? Why is this important? Deserts have come and gone for millions of years depending on climate changes such as the last Ice Age about 10, 000 years ago.

2. Knowing the age of the oldest tree and concluding that there were no trees before that one is like knowing the age of the oldest human and concluding there were no humans before that one. There have been numerous tree remains that carbon date way before 4400 years ago.

3. The moon was alot closer a few billion years ago.

4. Nova/Supernova occur VERY far away and the light which would provide us evidence of their explosion takes Millions of years to reach us. In addition, many of the early nova have dissipated and the remains have gone on to form new stars.

5. The rate of population change has not remained constant over the years man has been evolving. The increase was much slower thousands of years ago.

Answer 4

This question should be asked in the science category... you won't find anyone here qualified to answer those questions properly.

1, How does one date a desert? I'd like to know where you got that data and what support was given for their findings. Remember also that climate changes and water levels have changed over time. Some deserts used to be covered in water, others were lush forests.

2, Again, where did you find this data and what support does it have? Some possible explanations are as stated before, some forests have died out completely. Others have sprung up in other places on the globe. Trees don't live forever either. Just because you've found a tree that is just shy of the 6000 year mark doesn't mean that's when the world was pooped into existence.

3, You've gotten bad data. Stop reading Answers in Genesis, and listening to Kent Hovind... they aren't scientists, they just like to pretend they are.

4, I couldn't tell ya, ask an astrophysicist.

5, Wrong... again, i bet you got this from Answers in Genesis. Find a real source.

Answer 5

Some of your facts conflict with the Bible, and I'm a believer in God and Jesus, but I have to point this out before the ATheists and Agnostics do.

The Jewish religion is 5,800 years old and there were hundreds of thousands of Jews at that time, the Exodus, and possibly millions of Arabs and Egyptians.

We'd be looking at a time frame of 6,500+ years since Adam and Eve. Maybe 10,000 years, maybe more.

It's very hard for Theist, Atheist or agnostic to accurately date anything.

We don't actually have a recorded date on the Crusifiction of Jesus. No stone or tablet or parchment has been found that officiates it.

There is also no hard evidence of the Exodus or the facts surrounding Egpytian slavery of the Hebrews, except the Biblical record which is definately an old document, but no one can prove any copy is 5,800 years old.

We have to live with the facts and the Bible or Torah is the only documentary evidence that exists. Other evidence may eventually be found.

We have to take the writings of the scribes, old and new, as the only facts in the matter.

People have a right to question the validity of any documentary evidence that exists without coorborating evidence.

One cannot, however, argue with moral truth.

Don't kill
Don't covet
Love your neighbor
Love your enemy

Those concepts seems a little lofty to be coming from the average "man" so it is obivious a higher source of enligtenment has generated some of these ideas.

Why would John or Paul or Peter say "If asked for your coat, give them your cloak as well."

That's not indicative of human nature, human psychology or reactionary attitudes.

It defies the laws of human nature that a man would be that "big" in how they say to act and behave.

Man, at the very least, might say give it to them. But to offer your cloak as well! That's one step beyond and man simply does not do that by nature.

An Atheist would have a hard time justifying how common man could tell one to be that generous to a stranger.

When confronted at night with a gun in which the person says "give me your wallet" do you, of your own volition, also give them your car keys!

That is not in man's nature!

Answer 6

now i am no expert on the subject and i also believe in God but i know these facts are very wrong
see below for one example

A unique treasure, situated in beautiful Victoria Park in the west of the city, the fossil trees uncovered by removal of the surrounding rocks are the remains of an ancient forest, around 330 million years old. Scottish Natural Heritage has designated the grove a site of Special Scientific Interest. These fossilised tree stumps were discovered in 1887 when an old quarry was being landscaped as part of the work during the creation of the park. Careful excavation of the site uncovered the fossil remains and a building was erected to protect them from the elements

Answer 7

1) http://www.worldwildlife.org/wildworld/profiles/terrestrial/at/at1315_full.html Oldest desert is 55 million years old
2) That sounds about right, just happens to be so
3) 3.8 centimeters per year with a radius of 384,000 km. That is a HUGE radius!
4)They don't all hang around for millions of years. If they occur in a binary system (which the majority of stars are) or near black holes and such, the remnants of the nova may be swept up after a few thousand or million years.
5) http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/worldhis.html

Answer 8

1) The sahara desert is estimated at 7 million years old, its status as a desert would fluctuate with onset of ice-ages etc.
2) Trees spend a limited time on earth, the 4500 year old tree is irrelevant, there were billions of trees before it
3) The moon recedes from the earth at 4cm a year, it is now 385 000 km away from the earth, that didnt happen in 4500 years
4) Very questionable
5) Population growth has been exponential, ie vey rapid now, but very slow in the earlier years, which rate are you applying?

Answer 9

Dear .Blindman,
How many years did it take for the rains to make Mountains into sand,to make those deserts?
There are fossilized trees and wood MILLIONS of years old .
The moon is not moving away ,it appears to be getting closer because we are getting bigger ,dust is falling on earth everyday from space and expanding our earth.Thus the moon is getting closer.(illussion)
You don`t want stupid answers then don`t make idiotic statements !!!!!!
Fairy tales can come true if you Believe that they do .
I notice you don`t describe yourself very well .
How old are you .What grade are you in elementary school ?
Does your mommy know you are playing on the computer ?

Answer 10

You're confused alright. None of the points you've mentioned have any relevance to the biological process of evolutionary change. How stupid is it to ask evolutionists not just one but five questions that don't have any direct relation to evolution? Get back to us when you have some cogent questions that need addressing.