Essentially I think the only thing we're genuinely scared of is the continued dissemination of things with no basis in reality as out and out fact. That means we have no particular argument with 90% of Christians, who are generally warm, forgiving, loving accepting people, with a natural tendency to live and let live. Believe it or not, non-Christians have that tendency too. It's true and regrettable that sometimes, good people get stung and hurt in the crossfire when non-Christians and hardline "there is no other way" Christians clash, as they inevitably will do, over factual and spiritual issues, and I for one am sorry that happens. We do not seek to bring Christianity into disrepute - any faith, any collection of people will have good and bad in it. We generally seek only to challenge those whose beliefs are so rigid that they cannot act as ambassadors for their faith, but must instead be proselytisers, claiming only one path as true and condemning all others to some vision of eternal damnation.
This mindset sits very ill with many non-Christians (and indeed many Christians), as its history shows it to have been involved in some highly dangerous exploits - the Inquisition, the Crusades, the witch-hunts etc. We strive only to stop this extreme element from winning minds to its cause, which would benefit no-one, especially not the majority of moderate Christians. Again, on behalf of my particular breed of big-mouthed non-Christians, I apologise unreservedly for any unfortunate instances where moderate Christians are offended or hurt in our discussions.
Peace be with you.
2006-10-05 23:59:05
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answered by mdfalco71 6
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I object to the constitutional advantages enjoyed by Christianity (or in some cases all religions) in the UK - the existence of a law against blasphemy, the votes given to the Church in the House of Lords, the legal requirement to hold a religious assembly in schools, and the state money (including tax breaks) given to faith-based schools.
You are welcome to worship your God in any way which doesn't take away MY freedoms, spend MY taxes, or impose your beliefs on me or my offspring - and I think that's a fair enough position which doesn't mean it's an "issue" or bring Christianity into "disrepute".
What I am scared of is losing my freedoms to religious fundamentalists. It has happened with Christianity here in the past. It still happens today, as close at hand as Ireland (where the church bullies people into voting a certain way on issues it holds dear), let alone what is done in the wider world - from denying funding to AIDS charities that promote condom use, to the various degrees of repression exercised in the names of Islam and others.
2006-10-06 00:03:03
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answered by gvih2g2 5
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I am a committed atheist and hate all organised religions. Religion is responsible for war, murder, subjugation, torture, be headings, etc, etc, etc. What I hate most is the way religion affects my life; from opening hours on Sunday (why?) to not being able to get my kids out of RE and do extra maths (which would be much more useful - there is a lot of spiritual fulfilment in having a decent job)because it's compulsory. I have nothing against people practising their beliefs but they infringe on me and I can see no justification for that. I don't preach atheism at school but my kids have to be taught religion. I don't ring bells, call to prayer, knock on doors, stop people in the street, restrict beer sales, force kids to study, etc, but religion does this to other people and I do not see why it should. All religion is a form of mental illness in my opinion. Also there are always arguments aren't there? If God exists, why doesn't he just appear and tell us? Because you have to decide to come to him. And who gave us the freedom to chose? God did. But he never asked me if I wanted the freedom to chose so therefore he has taken away my freedom to chose. And you can make the texts say what you like. An eye for an eye, turn the other cheek, etc. It's such an issue because it impacts on my life and, like noisy neighbours, it has no right to. I am not scared of anything except injustice.
2006-10-05 23:54:41
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answered by Anonymous
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It wouldn't be an issue if Christians would practice their religion on their own and keep it out of other people's lives. But they don't. They try to push their beliefs on others and dictate other people's lives through legislature and other means and they keep trying to convert others. You can't seriously expect us to just be quiet and take that and let them turn the place into a Christian theocracy.
Did you know that there is a law that forbids an atheist to become President of the U.S.? That's just one example why people do (and should) care about other religions than their own. If they don't, they'll end up being discriminated and dictated by somebody's elses religious beliefs and morals. People must stand up for their rights.
2006-10-06 00:06:04
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answered by undir 7
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Perhaps it's more a case of showing up the disrepute of all superstitions (sorry, religions).
Many of us are saddened by the lack of intelligence shown by religious adherents the world over. This is the 21st century and for superstition (and that's what it really is) to still be rampant in the world shows only how ineffective the world's education systems have been.
Religion is one of the main factors holding the world population back in darkness. without it, most wars would end and we might finally make some progress. If religion remains, we can all expect to be destroyed in massive genocidal wars based on "My God is greater than your God".
2006-10-06 00:03:31
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answered by Anonymous
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Christianity has shaped most of the western world. Our laws, our morals our hopes and fears all stem from christian rule.
Myself, as a non christian, find the christian church to be hypocritical, oppressive, intolerant and manipulative.
there are many examples, but take the 7 deadly sins as a starting point. These are unforgivable sins, commit one of these and the burning pit of fire awaits you! Everyone will commit at least a few of them in their life time, as they are human nature. Do you dress up before you go out? Do your hair? Put some make up on? I'm sure you do, and thus you have committed the sin of Pride. Hell awaits you with open arms!
The bible, your book of fairy tales, has been rewritten and reinterpreted so many times over the centuries to fit in with the needs of the church, that no one really knows what was really written in the first place!
Christianity is nothing more than a tool to keep people afraid and to keep them under control.
What are we scared of? We're scared of you lot!! The war on terror has put us all at risk of attack, and George W Bush has been quoted on record as saying god told him to invade Iraq!!
You're either with us or against us seems to be the christian way!
Christianity is a frightening,violent and powerful death cult. We should all be afraid!
2006-10-06 03:07:38
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answered by Anonymous
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If you are a christian, why are nonchristians such an issue to you? You asked this question about them. The fact is, we are concerned because Christians make such a big deal about it, and make a big deal about it if you are not christian. Even if you don't attack others about not being christian and try to convert them, most Christians do. Why do Christians try to disprove/attack all other religions? What are you scared of?
2006-10-06 09:53:52
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answered by Anonymous
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Im not scared of anything except for the fact that it has been proven that organized religion has been the most destructive force in human history...Think about all the dead left behind because of religious beliefs..and its only getting worse...and I don't just mean Christianity...I mean any religion that preaches peace yet kills. I don't like to argue with Christians but everytime I tell them that Im an Athiest they get all up in arms and start acting insane...I mean to me hearing christians talk about Jesus and God is like hearing a 5 year old go on and on about santa claus, You know its not real so it irritates you.
2006-10-05 23:51:59
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answered by Anonymous
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It's not an issue of bringing Christianity into disrepute, it's an issue with some Christians (I fully respect, as an atheist, your beliefs) to attempt to force what you believe down non-believers' throats. Religion, by definition, is a private thing - leave the rest of us out of it.
2006-10-05 23:47:11
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answered by nert 4
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I don't feel it necessary to disrepute Christians and I'm not scared of them either, yet some feel the need to force their religion on me, and then I rebel and start asking questions (to which they usually cannot give satisfactory answers)
I don't say there is no god, I just don't believe there is one, so prove me wrong. And not with quotes from the Bible, since that is not proof.
2006-10-05 23:46:23
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answered by Walter W. Krijthe 4
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