What do you think of US Marines?

Question

I think that through the hollywood movies they are way overated. they are basically just normal troops who cannot be compared to the SAS, South African special forces, Selous SCouts from Rhodesia and the S A Police Special Task Force and Koevoet who operate up to 700 miles in enemy territory for months at a time on food with now backup and accomlish there mission and survive

thanx for all answers. I have been attacked for asking it by certain people.....my question is Have the movies overrated the marines.......and yes i have been in the military.....ihave been in combat.....i have been shot at

Answer 1

US Marine Corps

While the Marine Corps does not employ any unique combat arms, as a force it has the unique ability to rapidly deploy a combined-arms task force anywhere in the world in days. The basic structure for all deployed units is a Marine Air-Ground Task Force(MAGTF) that integrates a ground combat component, an air component, and a combat service support component under a common command element. While the creation of joint commands under the Goldwater-Nichols Act has improved interservice coordination between the U.S. military services, the Marine Corps' ability to permanently maintain integrated multi-element task forces under a single command provides a smoother implementation of combined-arms warfare principles.[2]

The close integration of disparate Marine units stems from an organizational culture centered around the infantry. Every other Marine capability exists to support the infantry. Unlike many Western militaries, the Corps remained conservative against theories proclaiming the ability of new weapons to win wars independently. For example, Marine Aviation has always been focused on close air support, and remained largely uninfluenced by airpower theories proclaiming that strategic bombing could singlehandedly win wars.[10]

This focus on the infantry is matched with the notion that "every Marine is a rifleman", emphasizing the infantry combat abilities of every Marine. All enlisted Marines receive training first and foremost as a rifleman; all officers receive training as infantry platoon commanders.[11] The value of this culture has been demonstrated many times throughout history. At Wake Island, when all the Marine aircraft were shot down, their pilots continued the fight as riflemen, leading supply clerks and cooks in a final defensive effort.[12]

The amphibious assault techniques developed for World War II evolved with the addition of air assault and maneuver warfare doctrine, into the current "Operational Maneuver from the Sea" doctrine of power projection from the seas.[1] The Marines are credited with the development of helicopter insertion doctrine, and were the earliest in the American military to widely adopt maneuver warfare principles, which emphasize low-level initiative and flexible execution. As a result, a large degree of initiative and autonomy is expected of junior Marines, particularly the NCOs (Corporals and Sergeants) as compared to many other military organizations. The Marine Corps pushes authority and responsibility downward to a greater degree than the other services. Flexibility of execution is implemented via an emphasis on "commander's intent" as a guiding principle for orders - specifying the endstate but leaving open the method of execution.[13]

The Marine Corps relies upon the Navy for sealift to provide its rapid deployment capabilities. In addition to basing a third of the Marine Corps Operating Forces in Japan, Marine Expeditionary Unit(MEU)'s, a smaller MAGTF, are typically stationed at sea. This allows them the ability to function as first responders to international incidents. The U.S Army now maintains light infantry units capable of rapid worldwide deployment, though they do not match the combined-arms integration of a MAGTF, nor have the logistical train that the Navy provides.[2] For this reason, the Marine Corps is often assigned to non-combat missions such as the evacuation of Americans from unstable countries, and humanitarian relief of natural disasters. In larger conflicts, the Marines act as a stopgap, to get into and hold an area until larger units can be mobilized. It performed this role in World War I, the Korean War, and Operation Desert Storm, where Marines were the first significant combat units deployed from the United States and held the line until the country could mobilize for war.[

US Special Forces

The United States Army Special Forces —a.k.a the Green Berets or Special Forces (capitalized)— is a Special Operations Force of the U.S. Army trained for unconventional warfare and special operations.

The Green Berets are more similar to the SAS, Israeli Special Forces and all other unconventional forces.

Answer 2

I joined the Army on the grounds that I favored all of the choices. I desired to leap out of planes and I did. I just like the proposal that if I wish to be tough I can pass to the universities they present and take a look at for ranger or SF or some thing whilst I consider love it. I additionally like the truth that I am stationed foreign (Germany) and it's beautiful convenient to stick right here if I wish. The Re-enlistment bonus I bought at the same time I was once deployed was once exquisite. In Iraq I traveled plenty and noticed plenty of the Marine FOB's and so they are living plenty rougher than the Army however I suppose this induced the Marines to bond somewhat higher than the Army models that I noticed. There was once plenty of bickering amongst our men in the market which drove me loopy. The Army has a better help detail so the military FOB's have been plenty extra at ease and the meals was once plenty higher. As for the remark approximately Marines being smarter and such. That men a DEP. He hasn't even skilled the Marines but. Most Service-participants in most cases are smarter than they're credited for...however there are dangerous apples in both department. Thank you to your curiosity in serving your nation.

Answer 3

I think that most soldiers are about the same. Special Forces have the same basic and generally aren't in service longer than an army motor pool mechanic but they go get specialized training and are given more autonomy on the battlefield. Marines are allready held to a higher entry standard than most soldiers in the world. I think that Marine Snipers are likely just about the best shots in any military and I would say Force Recon are only rivaled by Navy Seals in a woodland setting. Marines dont' survive for months at a time deep in enemy territory, they weren't trained to be boyscouts. The go in, directly to the target and they accomplish the mission, then they have breakfast

Answer 4

No, the Marines are not what Hollywood depicts. You,ve been watching propaganda films from the 40s and modern films that are just "action movies". Your comparisons are with specially trained small units (which the Marines also have) which are only a small part of their military. These countries regular forces would be a better comparison.

Answer 5

My fiance was a Marine who died in Lebanon when his barracks was bombed by terrorists.

He was brave, strong, and taken out by cowards when he was asleep, like everybody else in the compound.

I think that you saying that US Marines are overrated is something you have no basis for comparison on, you have no idea what these heroes do, how they are trained, how hard they work to defend the USA.

But I am guessing this is just another "Slap Americans in the face" thread, more than anything.

Tell me this. If the SAS and those others are so wonderful, how come we've never heard of any of them except the Special Task Force that used to kill black people just for being black?

One more question for you: When is the last time you stood in the line of fire, getting shot at to defend your country and its people? Unless you have done so, or given somebody you loved to the military, you have No Right to criticize any military person, anywhere, ever.

PS: Only cowards send email but make sure they can't be emailed in reply. And your email was gibberish, Rots Kop.

Answer 6

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but here goes:

I recently retired after 28 years in the Army. There was always a lot of inter-service rivalry between the Army and the Marines -- we'd each ride the other's case.

But I can't think of any other force in the world that I'd rather have fighting at my side when push comes to shove.

Answer 7

I personally feel pretty secure and free knowing that a few hundred thousand men and women are Marines, and they are committed to my safety against any enemy- here or abroad- I simply cannot put into words and describe my gratitude for all of our Armed Forces...
besides to say "thank you all- I stand by you no matter what". I cannot serve in any military due to an injury long ago, but that does not mean I can't hoot and holler about my troops...regardless of what branch or job they might have. So, to any active Marine, any retired Marine, or other Marine...I say THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE!!!!!

Answer 8

The marines are great! There are not dumb Yarheads as some belive. They are the best trained basicelly trained infantery in the world. If they as good as in the movies? Depends on what movies you have seen. Every movie should be seen with an open eye. Semper fi! Johan

Answer 9

Personally, I think the Marine Corps in general DO have an overinflated opinion of themselves. Sadly, I've seen good men go into the corps and come out debutante putzes. The corps has some excellent traditions, and honors, but sadly, many seem to consider themselves the only fighting man worthy of honor. That in itself is dishonorable.

Answer 10

marines are naval landing troops who operate on the front lines in any environment and are able to react on short notice. they are NOT special forces, deep penetratration forces or special action forces. their training is far different in content and disacipline is instilled so that each one is able to act as an infantryman regardless of his particular specialty training. hye is trained to use all the weapons any infantryman from any army unit can use as well as be able to make do with whatever he has at hand in order to accomplish his mission. each one is trained just like all the others, including officers, so he can always be sure that any other marine will have the same attitude of self-sufficiency as any other marine.

Answer 11

SAS is special forces! If you are looking for an equal, its the British Royal Marines