What is the best way to convert a Christian to Atheism?

Question

I personally find it enjoyable deprogramming Christians. Believe it or not it is possible. It takes a little time, but the rewards from knowing that you've enlightened someone are well worth the wait. Here's a list that I hope many of you Atheists can help me expand upon.

Method's for Deprogramming Christians:

1. Many Christians seem to fuel themselves by automated responses. The more you attack these responses, the more they realize their absurdities:

"Because God made it that way"
"God Loves unconditionally"
"I don't question it, the Bible said it, I saw it, end of story"
"God never puts you through anything you couldn't handle."
"Just read the Bible. You'll see for yourself."
“God works in mysterious ways”

It's all insecurity and the more you point it out to them that it is, the more they realize it. They're not trying to convince you. They're trying to convince themselves. There was even a case where I was for to record a guy. He finally realized that his statements were meaningless and redundant, so he caved in and became an Atheist


2. Question their roots. Most Christians have some root reason that they believe in Christianity. Many cases of conversion are done by “Love Bombing” much the same as Cults have done for year. Other people have been in it from the beginning and are just going through the motions. Either way, when you invalidate a Christians reasoning as to why they believe, most of everything else they believe falls apart.

3. Ask them if kissing up to a God makes them a good person. That answer is “No”. When you do all you can to please a God there is no room for yourself. Meaning that the only reason you do what you think is right is because you’re a suckass. No Eternally powerful being would condone position that has elevated so many into a management position. Sucking *** is only to benefit the sucker, not the suckee. Few people can deny this logic. How could you be a good person if all you do ultimately is for yourself?

4. Show them that the road to Atheism is a much tougher path. People like challenges and Christianity poses none. You aren’t challenged to think or question the Bible in any mean. The minister/pasture is always right and you never question his logic. Is this logic? Does this make sense? Is it even a Challenge? Or does it dodge the real truth that it’s all a lie? Atheism takes thinking and hard work for those Atheists who want to follow the moralistic path. Trying to be a good person who isn’t out to reap life’s biggest rewards is tougher than any challenges that Christianity poses.

5. Tell him the truth. The Bible was written by superstitious men. There was no logic or science back in the days of the Bible, to question anything that was going on. 40 years after the supposed events took place they decided to actually document what had happened by senile old men who embellished their stories. The Bible was written by MAN not God. So even if there was some supernatural even, there would be mistakes. And considering the source came from senile old coots, who were superstitious beyond anything we could comprehend. Christianity is the epitome of an Urban Legend gone wild.

6. Ask him if he is looking for and answer or “The Truth”. Any Bible toting freak can give you easy answers lacking all proof or evidence. Or better yet, he can show you old documents and give you locations where he says all the events happened and that’s suppose to be proof for you, right? Wrong. “Truth” is a path fought with many perils. Finding the truth behind the lies takes effort and Christians want you to think otherwise. If you can get the Christian to see this it’s basically over. The blind can now see. Logic prevails and Christianity dies a little more. And when I die, I can say that I’ve done my part in this world.

LoL Good report Lauren D

"His views conflicted with mine! Ban Him!!!"

I feel great. Sorry to disappoint many of you but I love life and self esteem hasn't been an issue with me for years now. Christians love to point out the esteem issue but I feel great and knowing that I'm spreading the knowledge to others makes me feel even better. That's why I do it, because when I get that smile from those I've converted. I know that I'm doing god, I mean Good.

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I don't force anyone to believe. I show them the way and they believe. Is that no different that a minister trying to convert people to his church? But mine is for a good cause.

Answer 1

damn!

thats a wonderful post. i agree with many of your points. i actually agree to the point where i cant really find anything wrong with it.

i do have to say that we atheists have to be careful with whom we deprogram. believe it or not (well, actually, beleive it) many people out there are emotionally fragile. i myself have come upon many a people who, after i attempted to deprogram, claimed that there was nothing to live for then and they would be better off dead.

we must remember that these people we deprogram (or attempt to) usually are fragile type people, using religion to create a sort of barier between them and the world. theyre usually hypersensitive, emotionally fragile/unstable and horridly desperate/dependant on their faith. much like a baby with a pacifier, if we take it or attempt to take their religion away they will go to no end crying and whining about how were evil or mean.

so yes be careful when deprogramming, those you deprogram are fragile. in any way you can think of or imagine (possibly excluding physically) you may actually cause more damage to their psyche than you intend to.

the best way, in my opinion, is to show them (by responses or educated retort) that their beliefs are wrong and absurd. disproving gods existence or getting them to come to the conclusion that god does not exist is like ripping the pacifier from the baby. instead we need to get them to come to their own conclusions, let them do the thinking. if theyre smart enough theyll come to the same conclusion we have. if not then...well....theyll be good christians

(good being uneducated, borederline bogotted and intolerant)

Answer 2

There is one thing that athiests have trouble with. You say they have more challenges. Yes and no. Christians are challenged to live a holy life, whereas athiests live for themselves.

Trying to live accountable for your actions results in a more responsible person. I can't emphasize this enough. The arrogance that accompanies athiests is bad for society. A world full of people trying to make the world a better place is great; a world full of snarky cynics trying to get theirs is stifling.

If you were stuck on a desert island for years, believe me, you'd rather be there with a Christian.

I can't say Christians have all the answers, but on a personal level, they are better people. Whether or not there is an afterlife, Christians and athiests would agree that if all you see is this life, that's all you'll get.

Answer 3

Actually atheism is the easy way out since you have no explanation for why or why not. You simply take the world as you see it, yet what do you percieve in this current state of human evolution, virtually nothing. You don't realize your limitations therefore your expectations are limited. Don't get it, didn't think so, you see there is no denying my faith because there is nothing in this universe that has proven to me otherwise. The more I look at the universe the more I find proof of God's existance. Your proof is, God hasn't walked thru your front door so why believe in something that I have no proof of, yet as funny as you claim that atheism is the hard way out, you're oblivious to the fact that its harder for me to prove there is a God than none. Does that mean there isn't one? According to you, yes, to someone who deems to look a bit deeper, no. You see in this current state of evolution you probably know .00001% of all there is to know in this universe, actually its less but I wanna keep it simple. So how can you claim there is none when you know so little, you being typical may refute and say, well how can you say there is one? Well i do know for one there was a big bang, you do believe in that dont you, and looking at it scientifically, nothing in this universe evolves from nothing. We live in a world of cause and effect and since there are no infinite values in science and anything in science has a cause and effect then the universe must have been caused by something, the big bang must have been caused by something since its impossible by scientific standards not to have. Does this say God, well no of course not, but you certainly must question, then what? And with that God is your only hope for making anything in this life meaningful because without one we are mere robots with no reason to live. You may think you have reason, but how can meaning stem from something that came from nothing? By your sense of reality we don't exist, we can't.

Answer 4

Good advice. I like to quote bible contradictions myself. Usually I get some response like, "You're misinterpreting the bible" This is why I always quote this contradiction...2 Kings 8:26 and
2 Chronicles 22:2 because it's impossible to say it was misinterpreted.

Answer 5

I deprogrammed myself from Christianity, but I will always believe in a higher power. The bible is only used for entertainment purposes. It's good fictional reading.

Answer 6

Number 7.

Lobotomy

Answer 7

If you didn't have an enormous problem with self esteem and self love you would have no need to criticize other peoples belief systems. Sooo.........the best way would be for you to build up your self worth so you didn't have to redirect the focus of your attentions on getting adverse reactions from others.

Answer 8

What do you think you gain? some kind of reward? There are so many other constructive things you can be doing to make this world a better place. Try and be more creative

Answer 9

Why would you want to? My father died a few years ago and all thst's keeping me going is the belief he went to a better place.
If you want to take that away from people then you have serious problems.

You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking you know everything.

Answer 10

Have them read "Atheist Universe" by David Mills. It made me even more sure of my atheism. It kept me away from theism. It's a good book, and it explains how 'God' isn't necessary to explain the universe.