If God created the world, who created God?

Question

If God always was... isn't it possible the world always was?

Answer 1

I don't believe it possible but what do I know. Only God can answer this himself.

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Answer 2

does this help?
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This is often asked of Christians. But God by definition is the uncreated creator of the universe, so the question “Who created God?” is illogical, just like “To whom is the bachelor married?”.


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So a more sophisticated questioner might ask: “If the universe needs a cause, then why doesn’t God need a cause? And if God doesn’t need a cause, why should the universe need a cause?” In reply, Christians should use the following reasoning:

Everything which has a beginning has a cause.1
The universe has a beginning.
Therefore the universe has a cause.
It’s important to stress the words in bold type. The universe requires a cause because it had a beginning, as will be shown below. God, unlike the universe, had no beginning, so doesn’t need a cause. In addition, Einstein’s general relativity, which has much experimental support, shows that time is linked to matter and space. So time itself would have begun along with matter and space. Since God, by definition, is the Creator of the whole universe, he is the Creator of time. Therefore He is not limited by the time dimension He created, so has no beginning in time. Therefore He doesn’t have a cause.

In contrast, there is good evidence that the universe had a beginning. This can be shown from the Laws of Thermodynamics, the most fundamental laws of the physical sciences.

1st Law: The total amount of mass-energy in the universe is constant.
2nd Law: The amount of energy available for work is running out, or entropy is increasing to a maximum.
If the total amount of mass-energy is limited, and the amount of usable energy is decreasing, then the universe cannot have existed forever, otherwise it would already have exhausted all usable energy. For example, all radioactive atoms would have decayed, every part of the universe would be the same temperature, and no further work would be possible. So the best solution is that the universe must have been created with a lot of usable energy, and is now running down.2

Now, what if the questioner accepts that the universe had a beginning, but not that it needs a cause? But it is self-evident that things that begin have a cause no-one really denies it in his heart. All science, history and law enforcement would collapse if this law of cause and effect were denied.3 Also, the universe cannot be self-caused nothing can create itself, because that would mean that it existed before it was brought into existence, a logical absurdity.

In Summary
The universe (including time itself) can be shown to have a beginning.
It is unreasonable to believe something could begin to exist without a cause.
The universe therefore requires a cause, just as Genesis 1:1 and Romans 1:20 teach.
God, as creator of time, is outside of time. Since therefore He has no beginning in time, He has always existed, so doesn’t need a cause.4
See also my more technical version of this article, which answers some objections.

Notes
Actually, the word “cause” has several different meanings in philosophy. But in this article, I am referring to the efficient cause, the chief agent causing something to be made. Return to text.
Oscillating (yoyo) universe ideas were popularized by atheists like the late Carl Sagan and Isaac Asimov solely to avoid the notion of a beginning, with its implications of a Creator. But the Laws of thermodynamics undercut that argument as each one of the hypothetical cycles would exhaust more and more usable energy. This means every cycle would be larger and longer than the previous one, so looking back in time there would be smaller and smaller cycles. So the multicycle model could have an infinite future, but can only have a finite past. Also, there is far too little mass to stop expansion and allow cycling in the first place, and no known mechanism would allow a bounce back after a hypothetical “big crunch”. See the references in Note 4 for more details. Return to text.
Some physicists assert that quantum mechanics violates this cause/effect principle and can produce something for nothing, but this is not so. Theories that the universe is a quantum fluctuation must presuppose that there was something to fluctuate their “quantum vacuum” is lot of matter-antimatter potential not “nothing”. Also, if there is no cause, there is no explanation why this particular universe appeared at a particular time, nor why it was a universe and not, say, a banana or cat which appeared. This universe can’t have any properties to explain its preferential coming into existence, because it wouldn’t have any properties until it actually came into existence. Return to text.
More information can be found in William Lane Craig, Apologetics: An Introduction (Chicago: Moody, 1984) and The Existence of God and the Beginning of the Universe; Norman L Geisler, Christian Apologetics (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Baker, 1976). But beware of the unfortunate (and unnecessary) friendliness towards the unscriptural

Answer 3

The atheist Bertrand Russell wrote in his book "Why I am Not a Christian" that if it is true that all things need a cause then God must also need a cause. He concluded from this that if God needed a cause then God was not God (and if God is not God then of course there is no God). This was basically a slightly more sophisticated form of the childlike question, "Who made God?" Even a child knows that things do not come from nothing, so if God is a "something" then He must have a cause as well, right?



The question is tricky because it sneaks in the false assumption that God came from somewhere and then asks where that might be. The answer is that the question does not even make sense. It is like asking, "What does blue smell like?" Blue is not in the category of things that have odor, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, God is not in the category of things that are created, or come into existence, or are caused. God is uncaused and uncreated - He simply exists.

Answer 4

The elements with which God created this world, exists eternally.
In this world when we say "creation", we basically mean simply "transformation". Like we say that a particular company constructed the shopping mall.. But the material with which the Mall was created already exist. Still the Builder gets the credit of Creation.

However we the soul are not created. Just like God we allways exist. This is confirmed in Bhagavad Gita (2.11) where God says
"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be."

This world is only a small fraction. There is a much greater Kingdom of God that exists eternally...
This world is temporary in nature, because here we individuals try to be God and fail again and again. But God and all the energies of God (including the energy with which this world manifest) are all eternally existing.

Answer 5

Anything is possible, but faith is all one has in life. where you put that faith is ur business, but isn't it better to know someone loved you enough to create you rather than you just appreared? And if you did believe in God and for some odd reason you found out he didn't exist what would you have lost to have believed in him in the first place? I say it doesn't matter to me how God got there cause I have the faith he is there and I am thankful I chose to believe that cause he loved me actually loved me like no love that is found on this Earth period enough to make me, me. At least the guidelines God gives us to live by are of love not hate which this world teaches so many today. So when you look at the news tonight and all you see is wars, hate, murders then think about those with their free will that chose not to believe in God and look what it got them.

Answer 6

I see what your saying, but there are a few big differences between the world/universe and God.

1- The universe is constantly changing, it's in a state of constant flux. God never changes, He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

2- The universe is imperfect. At least on earth, there are many forms of rampant unchecked decay, many of which are of human origin. The universe is less than 100% efficient, and therfore cannot be self sustaining, which means it could not always have existed. God is perfect, self sustaining, and self existant.

3- The universe, despite its incomprehensible vastness, is still a finite place. There are only so many atoms, so many photons, so many quarks in existence. God is infinite, unlimited.

By its very nature, the universe could not have always been. Some sort of ordered, intelligent, and deliberate force would have to at very least sustain it. But God is perfectly ordered, and infinite, and needs no sustaining.

Answer 7

That is the same thing as pondering time. When did time begin, when will it end. There is no answer, because time exists out of time. If that makes any sense, People have gone crazy trying to figure it all out. But I can see where you would think that.
If time always was, if God always was, then why not the earth.

Because science has peiced together the evolution theory, to the point where they know when the earth first formed. They even have a popular theory on how.

Answer 8

hmmm...nice question!

This is what I personally think:

firstly the world wasnt created by GOD, it came into existance by chance and a conducive atmosphere provided the way for life to evolve resulting in our existance today. Man endowed with the equipment and the ability to think ideated a power who was above all that is physical, chemical, botanical, and timebound, which the man called GOD. and in due time put the effort to understand the true nature of GOD. Eventually man came to the conclusion that there has to be a Power so immense yet infinitesmal which manifested in so many things living and nonliving thru their own characteristics. Thus developed the concept of GOD.

such a power was, is, and will be there for future mankinds to discover and strive to know better. so we can definately say that "GOD" always was. As for the world it comes and goes. and ours isnt the only world that was a result of a chance, there are many more which only time shall reveal upon us. so a world to me is like a bubble it is there for a period of time and then its gone, paving way to some other bubble to form and GOD to me is the ever present water in which bubbles form and vanish.

hope that answers ur curiosity. its all my opinion so people who choose to disagree kindly do so with reason and I shall welcome their point of view.

Thanks

Answer 9

It all depends on what you believe. Do you believe that he created it or are you questioning that as well? If you believe he created the world, then you should also believe and know that God always was and that's something that you're not supposed to question. If you don't then you don't really need to worry about where he came from, do you?

Answer 10

God was,is,and ever will be.
Earth and the Universe was created by God.

Answer 11

God created creating its self and he created time and everything else - so this question is just one you can answer with God is existence and intention its self.