Am I alone or do you not feel that it is the sworn duty of every police office to protect and serve ALL members of the community regardless of religion, race, gender, sexuality or any other label.
could you refuse to attend a 999 call in a Black neighbourhood because you're racist - No, Could you refuse to investigate a gay assualt becuase you don't like them very much - No.
What on earth is going on in England these days?
2006-10-04
20:22:30
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Some people have asked would I serve as a bodyguard to Al Qaeda? The answer would be no.... but if you sign up to be a member of a police force in a democratically elected country then you should reasonably be expected to protect and carry the protection or punishment of the law to all parties regardless of race/religion/sexuality/gender etc it is one of the cornerstones of any democracy.
2006-10-04
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When you sign up to the force you should know exactly why you are joining. To serve & to protect regardless of race color, creed, sexual orientation etc etc.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions & beliefs but these must never enter during the line of duty.
If your going to feel this way then don't join as clealry someone like this may prejudice his lawful duty, for eg failing to protect a jewish person being attacked in the street. I think I heard that the police officer had Leabanese relatives - this is still irrelevant as surely the cornerstone of policing must be impartiality.
The force needs to address this and I believe warn or discipline the officer, otherwise this will set a dangerous precedence for other officers to come forward and pick & choose their tour of duty !!
2006-10-04 23:23:01
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answered by Daredevil 2
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What a lot of rubbish.
First of all this storey came from the Sun news paper. So it's highly likely that at the very least the information has been twisted to suit the papers political agenda. At worst some of the information could be made up. Secondly the storey was obviously leaked from someone inside the Police who has an axe to grind. How accurate is this source?
Some one at a local level in the Police has made a decision to allow this officer to be moved to another assignement based on the the facts. Why the hell do the media and the general public think they are any more qualifed to make that decision especially since we are quite clearly not in possesion of the facts. Just because the Sun said it doesn't make it so. At no point this morning did the TV news stations talk to anyone who knew anything about this, other than what was printed in the sun.
At the moment 99% of what is being talked about is nothing more than speculation and conjecture.
So why is everyone getting so fired up about it?
This country is going to the dogs, in that these days people don't need to know the facts before they start flying of the handle and shooting their mouths off. All it takes is a report in a red top with a reputation for making up stories for us to start getting hysterical.
A while ago someone asked the question 'Why does everyone believe what the media tell them'. The overwhelming response was we dont'. Err...not in this case it would appear.
2006-10-05 05:42:45
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answered by PETER F 3
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I'm American, but I'd say that if you know you can't do the job you've been assigned, for whatever reason, it's your duty to tell your supervisors and request a change. The officer took the chance that he would lose his job, and perhaps he should have been fired. It was up to the supervisors to decide whether to reassign or fire the Muslim officer. You'd have to look at the precedents and the rules of the police department, and the politics of the situation to judge whether this was a good decision by the police officials.
There are different rules that apply to the performance of immediate duties, such as responding to a 999 call. The officer would be derelict in his duty to protect the public if he didn't respond. Requesting a transfer or reassignment from one's normal post is different from refusing to respond to an emergency.
2006-10-05 07:04:58
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answered by Anonymous
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I posed this question ten minutes ago and answering yours allows me to express my views.
Anybody seeing my answers might have a view I have Muslim sympathies and I do as far as their right to live a normal life is concerned.
To me as a born and bred cockney, I have helped make this country safe for them to live here. Now they call me an Unbeliever in my own country and what to run my country their way?
It galls me to listen to the views of the Black federation when I can't have one and now we have a Muslim force.
How many more are there in the Police Force and how big is the Police Force we can actually rely on?
No you are not alone and the more who back us to get control of the country we were born in the better.
And this does include Black or Muslims etc.
'Come and join us' has never had a truer meaning.
Become British Citizens now.
2006-10-05 03:49:54
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answered by Anonymous
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Think about why this police officer made the request in the first place, without delving into murky political waters:
1. Had he been totally anti-Israeli to the point of racism/hatred, wouldn't he have stayed on duty as a potential scout for terrorrist interests? His requested withdrawal shows no affiliation to extremism, and no interest in aggression of the sort, wouldn't you say?
2. Maybe he feared being made a scape-goat for any irregularities whilst on duty? Suspicion of muslims is intrinsically embedded in the Israeli psyche, with justification perhaps, wouldn't you say?
3. And finally, there is always the possibility (remote?) that he may have felt victimised by the nervous stares of the Israeli Consulate staff, just by being a muslim standing outside their Embassy. If you were Israeli, wouldn't you be subconsciously wary of Muslims more than any other "race"?
Look, I'm not pro-this or pro-that, I am all for humanity as a whole. It's just that there seems to be no argument for the police officer, who I'm sure didn't just decide to withdraw himself out of prejudice.
Having MOSAD riffling through your bins and following your wife home "just to be safe" that you're no terrorist must be one of the most understandable reasons for a dedicated policeman to request a withdrawal from such a position. To blame it on racism, seems to be a complete "missunderestimation" of the reasons for the lack of trust between Israelis and Muslims.
2006-10-05 04:03:38
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answered by bragamania 1
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iam a muslim and as a muslim i disagree with this officer beacause he sworn to protect all people in the british society and thats what he should do . but i was watching sky news and they said that the met police made a statement saying that his parents (the officer) were in lebanon when isreal started this war killing inoccent people . i dont think he is against jews he is against isreali's not jews
2006-10-05 17:10:41
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answered by messiry86 2
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As an ex Met Officer, I remember the oath I swore was to protect the person and property of all her Majesty's subjects, without malice or favour.
Once a Police Officer starts deciding who is deserving of the police service and who isn't, it all breaks down. This was a very worrying decision.
2006-10-05 03:51:23
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answered by Avondrow 7
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i think you are right the Police officer should have stayed there no matter wot and the officer that is in change should not have let that happen, some people i have to say are stupid. i can only hope that the Police officer in question had another excuse other then race or religion.
2006-10-05 03:45:51
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answered by Anonymous
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Why was the officer put their in the first place,surly is views were known.This duty could have put some ones life at risk.The total procedure should be looked at.
2006-10-05 11:06:23
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answered by shelford555 2
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He claimed he felt unsafe outside the Israeli embassy. Did he think the staff would use their diplomatic immunity to attack him? Not likely. The Scottish firemen who objected to handing out leaflets at a gay pride parade were punished even though there was no security at risk - if there is to be consistency then this chap will be punished, too.
2006-10-05 03:39:24
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answered by Dunrobin 6
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