Pregnant by Sire?

Question

I HAVE HAD MANY ANSWERS FROM THE PREVIOUS QUESTION, THE ONLY ONES THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER IS A VET OR PERSONAL EXPIERENCE. THE BREEDING WAS A MISTAKE, I WAS AWAY WITH MY SON WHO IS VISITING BEFORE GOING TO IRAQ, MY DAUGHTER WHO HAS THE FATHER, CAME OVER AND FORGOT THAT BIANCA WAS IN HER FIRST HEAT. I GREW UP ON A FARM, AND LOVE ALL MY ANIMALS. AND ARE TREATED AS PART OF OUR FAMILY. MOST OF THE ANSWERS WERE HURTFUL AND HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE ISSUE!

Answer 1

Don't panic. Things happen. While certainly not recommended, a female dog breeding with her father does not constitute ANY sort of 'disaster.' (Just don't let it happen again.) You didn't do it on purpose, and I'm sorry if anyone made you feel bad about it. (For some people here, a little bit of knowledge seems to be a dangerous thing. They often don't know NEARLY as much as they think they do. The smartest people are the ones who know when to acknowledge and defer to those with more extensive educations who DO know more.)

But back to the situation NOW. There's no point in anyone lecturing you about what you SHOULD have done. You have an unplanned situation NOW that you have asked for help with. Any ethical veterinary professional will be happy to HELP anyone who asks for sincere and well-intentioned help with their animals. If they can't do that, they're in the wrong profession. Emergency physicians and nurses don't lecture their patients about the dangers of talking on cellphones while driving while they are lying there bleeding to death. The first thing to do is handle the situation present NOW...then work on preventing its reoccurrance another time.

I didn't see your previous post so I don't know the details, but the pups will probably be just fine, in all actuality. A first generation situation like that is not especially likely to produce any genetic defects. It would be a whole lot better if she were a bit older (as with any pregnancy), but with proper prenatal care she can handle it okay. Your veterinarian can give you the best advice there. The fact that it's "incest" is not necessarily going to cause any adverse effects. Relax. :-)
(Like I said, just don't ever do it on purpose or let it happen again.)

If she's in the very early stages of gestation (first trimester/first 3 weeks) and you weren't planning to breed her in the future anyway, spaying her now would be a viable option to terminate the pregnancy....then you wouldn't have to worry at all.

Edited to add: You might consider turning your caps lock off. That alone tends to agitate people, as it's perceived as shouting in the cyberworld. :-)

Answer 2

Sorry if my post was hurtful, I just get so tired of seeing this kind of question, there are so many irresponsible owners here.

Your daughter should have been more on top of things, but kids will be kids. Maybe you should look into having her spayed. She can also be given a 'mismate' shot to abort, but it is likely too late for that, it has to be done within a couple days I believe, and is pretty hard on the *****.

If your ***** (or the stud) is such that you have been working on breeding out any genetic problems in the line, it will likely be fine. If you do not know the dogs in the pedigree, it is a total tossup. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!

Answer 3

I didn't see the first question. There is no reason to assume that just because the pup's parents are sire and daughter they will have health problems or fail to thrive. Line breeding and inbreeding isn't so dangerous with dogs as it is with humans but it must be done carefully if it is intentional. Many show breeders breed their dogs back to close ancestors to more firmly lock in certain good qualities as much as possible in the pups. The only problem is that while breeding such closely related dogs can double the chances of good qualities being inherited in the pups it can also double the chances of any bad ones being inherited as well. If your dogs are healthy and good examples of their breed with no known problems in their relatives chances are the pups will be very nice, healthy pups.

Answer 4

Line breeding = if no problems arise
Inbreeding= if problems arise

Thats kindof the basic "breeders" definition. I know that mistakes can happen. My personal opinion would be to let you female go ahead and have the pups, but once they are old enough I would spay and neuter all. Usually a father-daughter breeding is a bit close.

One of my dog breeder friends bought a pharoah hound that was from a daughter-Uncle breeding. The dogs in that litter did not completely conform to the breed standard and they were a bit dopey- but really sweet. that whole litter got spayed and neutered and are just kept as pet quality- not show quality.

Good luck with your coming litter!

Answer 5

"Forgot" the dog was in heat???? I have been breeding dogs for a while and I find it hard to fathom that no one thought about it when knowing the male was coming over. When the male got anywhere near her, there would have been an unmistakable interest in her!!!!!!! If no one was watching, it was plain irresponsibility, not a "mistake". I mean a female is only in heat for a short while, and STANDING heat for an even shorter time......that did not occur to anyone?????????? This is what happens. People do not remember to think, and now there will be ANOTHER litter of puppies that should not have been born. Who has the ultimate responsibility for that??????????

There is no way to tell the outcome either way until they are born. If the male and female have not been screened for health problems, then there could be real trouble. Take hip dysplasia.
If the male were to be dysplastic, and the female dysplastic also, the chance of the puppies being effected is FAR greater. One could ASSUME that the male,since having been used for breeding already, has all his health clearances. But, I kinda doubt that.
So, I guess ignorance can be bliss....at least until the puppies are born.

Any breeders that intentionally breed a father to daughter do the proper checks into the pedigree for potential problems and make sure the dogs have at least been health screened. It is a thought out breeding. I do not happen to subscribe to that form of breeding, but it has its place in the correct hands. This is not one of those times.

Answer 6

I saw your previous post...didn't read into the answers. This litter isn't going to be a very healthy litter. You may or may not have problems in the begginning, but they will develop. It's kind of like you having a child with your father. (*not trying to sound ugly*) But most of the times they turn out with problems. And the fact that it is her first heat cycle, (I would assume she's around 6 mos-yr), she's likely to have problems with the litter. Most vets don't reccommend that you breed until they are at least 18-24 mos. You may want to have frequent checks on her during her pregnancy. And also have VERY frequent checks on the pups after they are born. Especially checking the heart, lungs, eyes, knees, etc.

Answer 7

This is called Line Breeding. Check with your vet. Y

ou should have no problems except the usual problems with an inexperienced mom raising pups.

Answer 8

I know a lot of show breeders will breed father to daughter. I don't agree with it, but I understand that an accident can occur. Hopefully the pups will all be okay. Good luck.

Answer 9

If you don't want the litter, talk to your vet about having her fixed b/f she is to far along.
When you post a question, you should give more detail & then maybe ppl wouldn't be so hard on you.

Answer 10

things happen, it's not the end of the world, if your female is not too far along the vet can give her a shot to abort, she is rather young to have puppies the only thing about breeding so close
is that any faults or traits are more likely to show up